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2047 WBL Draft Thread

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Pleighboi
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Also I'll do the trades tomorrow if LC doesn't beat me. Dual monitors makes it a lot easier
 
jdlikewhoa

jdlikewhoa

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Lloyd Carr said:
Ill do it later this morning
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Lloyd Carr

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If I do it right now, I am sure someone will find a problem with the draft and Ill have to redo it after OU resets it. If I wait, maybe the reset will happen before I make adjustments.

plus, I havent pooped yet.
 
NML

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Man, my new scout has some pelotas with his ratings of these guys. One player that OSA loves, he hates. One meh player he thinks is the bee's knees.
 
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Pleighboi
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NML said:
Man, my new scout has some pelotas with his ratings of these guys. One player that OSA loves, he hates. One meh player he thinks is the bee's knees.
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I think your old scout and doh's were swapped upon rehiring. Maybe you two can chat about each of their personalities.
 
osick87

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NML said:
Man, my new scout has some pelotas with his ratings of these guys. One player that OSA loves, he hates. One meh player he thinks is the bee's knees.
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I just called a IFA up that is like that. OSA and Peasnall agree that Kien Tatham is fast and pretty good defensively. OSA thinks his bat is a turd while Peasnall thinks he will be starter worth (50-55)
 
NML

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So Piranaha - my scout has him as a 1*. I still liked him and despite the starzzzz had him as my favorite pitcher, but that was alarming.

56 GB% with those pitches? Hmmmmmm
 
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Pleighboi
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NML said:
So Piranaha - my scout has him as a 1*. I still liked him and despite the starzzzz had him as my favorite pitcher, but that was alarming.

56 GB% with those pitches? Hmmmmmm
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2% above average, plus his movement isn't out of this world.

I'm not sure you are reading ratings properly if that concerns you
 
NML

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But his movement would be better, and his GB% higher, if his pitchers were really that good.

I get that GB% is linked with movement, but if ur best pitches are off-speed, ur likely a ground ball pitcher.

A pitcher with the best curveball in the league would have a higher GB% - IRL anyways.
 
Gooksta

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NML said:
But his movement would be better, and his GB% higher, if his pitchers were really that good.

I get that GB% is linked with movement, but if ur best pitches are off-speed, ur likely a ground ball pitcher.

A pitcher with the best curveball in the league would have a higher GB% - IRL anyways.
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I agree. If he has four plus pitches then he could be really good imo
 
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Pleighboi
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NML said:
But his movement would be better, and his GB% higher, if his pitchers were really that good.

I get that GB% is linked with movement, but if ur best pitches are off-speed, ur likely a ground ball pitcher.

A pitcher with the best curveball in the league would have a higher GB% - IRL anyways.
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Yeah, you're reading the ratings wrong. Classic mistake of thinking about OOTP with real life in mind. Stuff has nothing to do with GB%. It has to do with Ks. Movement and GB% are lanked tho.
 
NML

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OU11 said:
Yeah, you're reading the ratings wrong. Classic mistake of thinking about OOTP with real life in mind. Stuff has nothing to do with GB%. It has to do with Ks. Movement and GB% are lanked tho.
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I'm not reading the ratings wrong, I get them. They just don't correlate.
 
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Pleighboi
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NML said:
I'm not reading the ratings wrong, I get them. They just don't correlate.
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Correlate to real life? I know. When you were talking about stuff and GB% I thought you assumed stuff had something to do with that. My b
 
NML

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Right. My scout doesn't like his "stuff" compared to what OSA thinks. My thought process was that maybe his stuff really isn't that good considering his GB% is so low, but I see that even though his "stuff" is off-speed pitches, that doesn't necessarily = ground balls. But like Mole - he's got a dominant curveball and his GB% is 63, IIRC. Of course, his movement rating is pretty good. Hoyt Easton may be a better example. His stuff is 55, while his movement is only 50, but his best pitch is a curveball. His GB% is 60.

May be nothing, but could be an interesting connection.
 
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Pleighboi
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NML said:
Right. My scout doesn't like his "stuff" compared to what OSA thinks. My thought process was that maybe his stuff really isn't that good considering his GB% is so low, but I see that even though his "stuff" is off-speed pitches, that doesn't necessarily = ground balls. But like Mole - he's got a dominant curveball and his GB% is 63, IIRC. Of course, his movement rating is pretty good. Hoyt Easton may be a better example. His stuff is 55, while his movement is only 50, but his best pitch is a curveball. His GB% is 60.

May be nothing, but could be an interesting connection.
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What I'm saying is that pitches only correlate with stuff. Not control or movement. Stuff only determines Ks, movement only determines GBs, and control only determines walks. So when you average those three you get their standard ERA they should throw. It varies wildly from that number, but that is their "best case" scenario.

So he can have an 80 curve and that 80 rating has nothing to do with how many GBs he produces with that pitch. It is only an 80 because he can K anyone with it. You could have a guy with all 80 pitches and 80 stuff with a 40 movement rating and 38% GB rating. He either Ks or they hit it out of the infield

What you're tom bout is arbitrage. That's what i look for too, but knowing how the ratings comingle is key for knowing what you're looking at
 
Orlando

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Curveball does not necessarily equal a ground ball pitcher.
 
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Gooksta

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I have a quandry @ 4.. the guys I want to take probably shouldnt be taken there.. and the guys I should take, I dont want.. :angry:
 
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