Hayvis really on brand sacrificing the financial future of his team to ensure every breeder Mong murrican can afford a ticket for their whole brood
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2079 Season Thread
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NML
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Well the best thing you could do would be make the playoffs. You are currently tied for fourth so you wouldn’t need a huge addition to make it. But making the playoffs would do two things - 1) increased revenue, which won’t directly increase your budget but it might push you to the positives in cash flow, which would give you some extra cash going into next season and 2) increase fan interest, which is obviously vital. So the only way you’ll be able to add people is via trade (or guys on the minimum) and you’ll have to give up some assets to do so.
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
You wait. It's gonna be a very American team very soon.
NML
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Just wait until you miss the playoffs by alphabetical order!
Paris is #2 in attendance but # 13 in gate revenue.... butts in seats needs balance with how much the butts pay!
hayvis
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@Travis7401 , I did actually put T-Bone, and my catcher whoever he is on reasonable long term contracts, so that you guys would have to pay top dollar if you wanted to get at them, rather than pick them up as free agents. Was that a bad move? That's how it works in soccer, so I assumed the same would apply for baseball. Either I get to keep them or they're valuable to another team...
NML
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You have a few different options:
1) trade for expiring deals and have the other owner retain salary (the player basically plays for free for you)
2) move equal salary out - Lopez is out for the year and expiring, so if you send him the other way, that’s up to $7m you can take back. Your RF is bad has a $4m salary you could dump on someone
3) minimum players (I think). Might be wrong here but I think you can always add players on the minimum via trade (and, if not, you could trade away one of ur bums on a minimum to basically make it #2)
Neither looks like a bad contract in a vacuum, but in your situation I’d value flexibility more. Even if they’re great players for the remaining contracts you’ve still tied up like 1/3 of ur salary in two players
NML
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The other part of that statement is the trade thing - being locked up long term is often a negative factor when trading, especially in this league. Owners like to stay flexible and unless he’s a complete stud, long term contracts of significant money won’t get moved (and definitely won’t get a big haul if they do)
NML
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I agree with Travis that both contracts are fine in a vacuum. T Bone is a stud so you don’t want him to walk. Johnson is good, but you are paying him until he’s at least 34, which is scary (especially for a catcher).
T Bone would get you a great haul if you wanted to move him, Johnson probably not
T Bone would get you a great haul if you wanted to move him, Johnson probably not
Soonerfan09
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The whole WEAK LEAGUE in here trying make Paris a contender. STFU and worry about ur own teams.
hayvis
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That's the way you expand the amount of human players for the WBL. Get an Ingerlishman in and then tell him to go fuck himself when he's struggling.
In any given year I can get the best available C or 1B in free agency for $15m or less, so U have to keep that in mind as well. A lot of teams can’t afford the contract even if they would want to trade for them
hayvis
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His contract never goes above 9m.... He's also durable, and the only decent catcher other than the Hammers guy who's 33. I honestly don't see why you're not giving him a high trade value.
Why would you only start a catcher based on defence @Yankee151 ? Surely if it's a weak batting position you are giving your team a whole player advantage if you have one of the few that can bat?
Yankee151
Hot Girl Summer
They are the one position that affects Pitcher's ERA because of the way they call games, throw out runners, block wild pitches, etc. There's also pitch framing, but I don't think that matters in AI world where there are no human umps to fool. Obviously the ideal is one who can do both, but they are super rare
hayvis
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DANIEL FUCKING JOHNSON...... THAT'S MY FUCKING POINT.
NML
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@hayvis heres a guy I could sign today: http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com//game/lgreports/players/player_6966.html
Ur right that he’s not as valuable as ur guy, but he’s probably ~2 WARS WON, whereas DJ is around 3.5. Not sure what this guy would ask for, but I’ll guess <$2m.
So with that extra $7m, I can DEFINITELY make up that extra 1.5 wins. And I don’t have to give up anything to get him
Ur right that he’s not as valuable as ur guy, but he’s probably ~2 WARS WON, whereas DJ is around 3.5. Not sure what this guy would ask for, but I’ll guess <$2m.
So with that extra $7m, I can DEFINITELY make up that extra 1.5 wins. And I don’t have to give up anything to get him
He’s on a good contract... but when I trade I’m typically looking for a GREAT contract! Usually a young player I know I can have on minimum for a few years
NML
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Understanding how different things are evaluated in the league is both really important and difficult. To me, far and away the most undervalued thing are solid starters. People just do not seem to trade for 1-3 WARS WON guys like you might expect. And studs get moved way more than you might think (at least it use to be).
hayvis
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I can't see a single good young catcher on a minimum contract. They don't exist. I suppose this league just doesn't value catchers. If it's anything like cricket, ya'll living in 1975 when no-one realised that a wicket keeper that could bat could give you an extra player when you weren't defending.
Fine, I’ll give you a 3rd round pick for him
Yankee151
Hot Girl Summer
Blanken is the perfect example of what I look for in a C. Won 2 ships with him on ultra low salary making 1 WAR won.
I think DJ is good, and he's a Fan Fav so part of his contract pays for hisself. But I prefer to splurge elsewhere anyways, I can get more offense per dollar on other positions while not having my 'weak' position be ineffectual because at least he's positive through defense.
My current guy is the perfect example of this, absolutely terrible bat but still neutral WAR because of his defense. I can produce tons of these guys no problem for 490k and dump them as I go.
Then I go and spend 15M per year on a 70 WRC+ DH, so don't take my advice too seriously!
hayvis
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jdlikewhoa
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doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
Dumping salary and attaching stuff to get rid of it...I.e. Tom Pyke on your team.
Seriously I'd focus on cutting that wage bill first of all. Someone like David Hamilton you can waive/DFA once the season ends to save some. You could not offer arbitration to guys (although it looks like your guys are useful at least).
You've got a lot of guys in the minors on your 40-man. If you don't think they are going to help, waive/DFA them to save a little money now but moreso that half million they're on the budget for next year. That'll help you if you want to extend guys.
Your payroll is pretty low, are you spending a ton on Devo/Scouting? You can lower those next year.
Seriously I'd focus on cutting that wage bill first of all. Someone like David Hamilton you can waive/DFA once the season ends to save some. You could not offer arbitration to guys (although it looks like your guys are useful at least).
You've got a lot of guys in the minors on your 40-man. If you don't think they are going to help, waive/DFA them to save a little money now but moreso that half million they're on the budget for next year. That'll help you if you want to extend guys.
Your payroll is pretty low, are you spending a ton on Devo/Scouting? You can lower those next year.
You should have money budgeted for draft picks and you can offer slot to players even if you are in the red.
Also, it’s probably been said, but your budget is tied to revenue and its locked in on opening day or maybe even spring training. It’s based on last years revenue and then you may get a bump when spring training starts if you have a higher projected revenue for the coming season.
Send me a 1st round pick and I'll take Tom Pyke and his $8M salary for you and Include Three MINIMUM salary pitchers who are BLOCKED on my roster. You'll slightly improve 3 pitchers and you'll save $7M a year for the next 3 seasons.
Here are the pitchers on offer:
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/game/lgreports/players/player_6178.html
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/game/lgreports/players/player_10938.html
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/game/lgreports/players/player_4561.html
Those guys aren't going to make my roster, but they could replace Pyke/Jorge Martinez/Diego Bertrand/Jason Garner on ur roster and be an improvement.
Here are the pitchers on offer:
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/game/lgreports/players/player_6178.html
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/game/lgreports/players/player_10938.html
http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com/game/lgreports/players/player_4561.html
Those guys aren't going to make my roster, but they could replace Pyke/Jorge Martinez/Diego Bertrand/Jason Garner on ur roster and be an improvement.
@hayvis you are kind of between a rebuild and contention so its a tough place to be. Generally if you are bad, you want to be very bad for a couple seasons so you can grab a couple good prospects, trade players for prospects or picks and reload for 3-5 seasons down the road. Right now your best bet it to try to make the playoffs while also losing some salary if possible. You need to move higher a higher paid player for a player, or group of players that can perform similarly (or better). This may seem difficult to do, but here are a few possibilities.
Trade Cliff! @doh is looking for a 2B and you have a 2B prospect who is ready to go who may be close to as good (Locke). Turn Cliff into a combo of picks/prospects/low salary WBL players.
The same could be said for Juan Franco. Matt Walls or Gus Davis could step in for him.
Replace Jim Nicols with Matt Walls or Spurlin.
Trade Dominic Jenkins or let him walk.
Trade Vincente Lopez or let him walk.
Send Bleacher to the minors or cut him. If you send him to the minors, he may be angry enough not to pick up that option. If you cut him you can at least spread that option over this year and next.
Daniel Johnson could be moved, but he is popular and productive at a position with few bats. Unless you can grab a C prospect from someone I might hang onto him.
Trade your draft picks if you cant afford to sign them. The worst thing you can do is let those guys walk.
Lose Tom Pyke as quickly as possible and revamp your OF as cheaply as possible.
Trade Cliff! @doh is looking for a 2B and you have a 2B prospect who is ready to go who may be close to as good (Locke). Turn Cliff into a combo of picks/prospects/low salary WBL players.
The same could be said for Juan Franco. Matt Walls or Gus Davis could step in for him.
Replace Jim Nicols with Matt Walls or Spurlin.
Trade Dominic Jenkins or let him walk.
Trade Vincente Lopez or let him walk.
Send Bleacher to the minors or cut him. If you send him to the minors, he may be angry enough not to pick up that option. If you cut him you can at least spread that option over this year and next.
Daniel Johnson could be moved, but he is popular and productive at a position with few bats. Unless you can grab a C prospect from someone I might hang onto him.
Trade your draft picks if you cant afford to sign them. The worst thing you can do is let those guys walk.
Lose Tom Pyke as quickly as possible and revamp your OF as cheaply as possible.
I can actually make you a real better offer of YOUNG GUNZ and take Pyke/Bleacher from you to help you clear up some financial wiggle room. Step into my PM office and lets WHEEL AND DEAL
Yankee151
Hot Girl Summer
I will make you an offer for @pavl woodlandsky if not
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
Done. Is there any other salary you could take off my hands? In bed now so difficult to see. I'm pretty sure there isn't.
You gotta at least counter!
hayvis
Will-Gnome Member
Yes..
hayvis
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Haha... I have no idea.. I'm tired. Will continue this tomorrow.
hayvis
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I think I'm going to trade everyone of value and rebuild with prospects and picks. Will be back tomorrow when my head is fresh. @Travis7401 , I like that offer to take beacher and Pyke. Could you give me a third in return too?
Lets discuss more when I'm back from mawmaws funeral!
hayvis
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Hope it's ok.
jdlikewhoa
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@hayvis If you’re trading Cliff I’d offer you next years 1st and http://utopia.allsimbaseball9.com//game/lgreports/players/player_6545.html as a starting point