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osick87

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Something tells me OU is going to put prospect fail rate to 0 for the Conquistadors.
 

OU11

Pleighboi
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Yeah sorry, meant the order. This is what I was tom bout by letting your rooks take their lumps though, I think they'll soon turn it around. If not then next year they'll most likely break out. Takes a bit for them to get acclimated
 

Schauwn

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Problem is, I can't figure out where to put him in the top half of my lineup, and he wasn't doing well when he was up there.

If I move him up in front of Carter/Johnson to give him some protection, then the top of my lineup is mostly lefties. So I'm seeing how he does at the bottom of the lineup, batting in front of Frank who's been doing well at the plate so far.
 

osick87

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Problem is, I can't figure out where to put him in the top half of my lineup, and he wasn't doing well when he was up there.

If I move him up in front of Carter/Johnson to give him some protection, then the top of my lineup is mostly lefties. So I'm seeing how he does at the bottom of the lineup, batting in front of Frank who's been doing well at the plate so far.

The guy hitting .199/.280/.359 ?

I'd put Lips at 1, Keitel at 7, Orozco at 9
 

Schauwn

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I'm sorry, Keitel, not Frank.

I also realize now I was looking at the splits for the last week: .346/.393/.500
 

osick87

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Ah okay. If you like Keitel, then maybe go Lips @ 1, Keitel @ 4, Langille @ 5, Rivera @ 9
 

OU11

Pleighboi
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Since you're not ready to win yet, I'd just get the most at bats possible for guys that are going to be playing parts in your future. Wouldn't worry about production yet, that will come.
 

osick87

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Since you're not ready to win yet, I'd just get the most at bats possible for guys that are going to be playing parts in your future. Wouldn't worry about production yet, that will come.

This also makes sense to me
 

Schauwn

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Rivera
Langille
Johnson
Lips
Carter
Keitel
Frank
Orozco
Prowse

thats what I would do
This is pretty close to what I started the season with, I've just been moving guys around trying to figure out where they produce best, so that when next year comes around I know where guys appear to be most comfortable.

I did just make some tweaks though to put Lips at the top of the lineup with Johnson, Carter, Langille, and Keitel.
 

Schauwn

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Here's what I changed my lineup to, now that I'm in front of OOTP:

Lips
Carter
Johnson
Langille
Rivera
Frank
Orozco
Prowse
Keitel
 

Orlando

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OU brought up a good point about just getting ABs. I'd put your 3 best young hitters 1-3 in that order. Get them as many ABs as possible.
 
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Schauwn

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Problem is, 5 or 6 of my guys, this is their first year starting in the WBL. Carter and Langille are new as well, along with Prowse, but he sucks
 

Wolfman21

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Langella ain't new. He's running up on his arb year, possibly after this season. He hasn't been great though, so his extension, if you so choose, should be cheap
 

Schauwn

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Langella ain't new. He's running up on his arb year, possibly after this season. He hasn't been great though, so his extension, if you so choose, should be cheap
Yeah, but I dont think he's been the starter at any significant time either. I could be wrong there...

He hasn't been performing that well at the plate, so we'll see what his demand is when we get there. I haven't checked his defensive stats yet though to see if he's worth keeping around as a replacement depending on how cheap I can get him
 

Wolfman21

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Yeah, but I dont think he's been the starter at any significant time either. I could be wrong there...

He hasn't been performing that well at the plate, so we'll see what his demand is when we get there. I haven't checked his defensive stats yet though to see if he's worth keeping around as a replacement depending on how cheap I can get him

You're not gonna find a much better defender at 2B or 1b. He's a +++ defender and honestly would become a 65 or 70 at SS if given the time at that position. His ratings have become much better than I ever thought they would when I traded him to @doh. I think his future is as a 2B or SS. He just doesn't have the power needed out of the 1B position
 

doh

THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
I think he could be a good not great defensive SS. I think his arm limits him a little but the range/turn DP are both elite. 2B wise he should be the best defensive 2B in the game.

My issue with him is he ever going to hit? He has 970 PA and a empty .250 average with a regular BABIP. His ratings say he should hit more but he never has. It's almost like 5 at any raw hitting skill and things would be a lot better. Maybe his lack of speed hurts with his average is something I've seen before.
 

doh

THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
OU brought up a good point about just getting ABs. I'd put your 3 best young hitters 1-3 in that order. Get them as many ABs as possible.
Yep. I'd do the same. Get your young guys/guys like Langille or Carter you think can help in the future as much experience as possible. Also helps to see if some of those guys can cut it in the WBL.

Personally, for my lineup I just want my 3 best hitters in the top 3. This year I've got Sacuedo leadoff (partially because his expectation is that) but I also want him getting as many ABs as possible. I don't believe in protect or lineup construction apart from getting your best hitters as many ABs as possible.
 

Wolfman21

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I think he could be a good not great defensive SS. I think his arm limits him a little but the range/turn DP are both elite. 2B wise he should be the best defensive 2B in the game.

My issue with him is he ever going to hit? He has 970 PA and a empty .250 average with a regular BABIP. His ratings say he should hit more but he never has. It's almost like 5 at any raw hitting skill and things would be a lot better. Maybe his lack of speed hurts with his average is something I've seen before.

His defensive ratings basically mimic Joe Kirk and kirk was a gold glover last season and has only had one season with a negative zone rating.

I agree with the hitting. Davies on my team is another guy whose ratings would make you think he would hit more than he does. I think there are some guys that just never perform up to their rankings.
 

Orlando

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His defensive ratings basically mimic Joe Kirk and kirk was a gold glover last season and has only had one season with a negative zone rating.

I agree with the hitting. Davies on my team is another guy whose ratings would make you think he would hit more than he does. I think there are some guys that just never perform up to their rankings.
Carrillo was like that, but he was basically the best defensive OF in the league and still put up 3+ WAR a season.
 

Schauwn

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This was the year that I was hoping some of my guys would find their stride while other players learned, and it's going so far like I expected.

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Sargant has been lights out all year. I dont know why he's only started 8 games when everyone else has 10 though...

Fernades has been solid as my #2 while Rat has been struggling this year and last. I'm not sure what it is since his ratings haven't changed. Maybe the last few years of suckage has gotten to him. I might move him down in the rotation next season to see how he does in the 3 or 4 spot. Only 4 of his starts have been quality starts. He's given up a ton of hits, even with a respectable K/BB ratio.

Where Rat goes depends on how Paul Lee finishes the year. His control isn't there yet, but hopefully a year in the WBL and he'll learn what's needed of him. Though it's the hits, not walks, that's killing him so far this year.

Ramon Ramos has been a solid #5 for me this year, with a respectable WHIP and 6 of his 10 starts being quality starts. There's not much more to ask from your #5, the bats just haven't been there for him, or anyone else on the rotation.
 

Wendell Gee

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I selected Fernandes as one of my 3 SP's in the in-game All Star ballot. I don't know if we use that ballot at all but it was a fun walk-through.
 

Wolfman21

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I selected Fernandes as one of my 3 SP's in the in-game All Star ballot. I don't know if we use that ballot at all but it was a fun walk-through.

We do. But we have all the way up until the sim before the all star game to vote. We've used it the last 2 years although last year only like 3 people voted
 

Orlando

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@Schauwn is your rotation set to strict? Or on occasion highest rested? Wolfman probably missed 2 starts because he wasn't rested. He has low stamina.
 

Orlando

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I don't think that's true, but I can see how you would think that. The low stamina pitchers aren't necessarily injury prone, but the injury prone pitchers end up with low stamina. The ones who always had low stamina generally do ok if you don't over work them.
 

Gooksta

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I don't think that's true, but I can see how you would think that. The low stamina pitchers aren't necessarily injury prone, but the injury prone pitchers end up with low stamina. The ones who always had low stamina generally do ok if you don't over work them.
thats the tricky part
 

Schauwn

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Was planning on posting about my lineup too, but am now going to go through my minors and tweak some things.

Cue the adderall...
 

Schauwn

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I dont know what's going on with my team. I haven't been able to download/export for a week.
 

Travis7401

Douglass Tagg
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Probably. I bet you'd be in 3rd place if you were in JV league. I'm in 3rd place and the best hitter in my current lineup is batting .252 after that is another guy at .230.
 

Schauwn

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I have 3 guys that I've moved to AA earlier this year and one of these looks like he's ready to come to AAA already. Problem is, two of them are OFers which I'm mostly set on.

Luis Macias

Plus defense at 2nd and 3rd, serviceable at SS. I might play him at SS for the remainder of his minor league career to see if I can get a bump at the position. Even if I dont, he'll be a great utility for me to have. OSA has him already almost at his potential, which is why I'm hurrying him through the minors. He should finish the year at AAA and be ready for the WBL by next year (hopefully). So far in AA, through 186 ABs, he's batting .339/.439/.570. He is striking out at a rate higher than I'd like, but he's reached his potential on avoid K's, so I think he is what he is. Him and Langille should be my MIF duo for the foreseeable future.

Jim Payne

Payne was my one of my first round picks in 2048. He played well, not great his first year, and then really figured it out this season at A level. I moved him to AA earlier this year and he's been solid so far. After about equal time in A/AA this year, I think I called him up at the right time and might need the rest of the year at AA before he's ready for AAA early next year. If he stays on his projected path, I hope he'll be ready for the WBL by 2051 ASG, if not before. I'm not in hurry to rush him though, because the only two positions he's rated for is RF and LF, where Nutball and Rivera are now. I want to play him at 1st for a while to see if he can get better there, but it might be too late. If not, he'll be a nice DH/platoon OF for me.

Mason Brett

A international guy I was able to sign 2 years ago who is finally developing. His defense is what intrigued me about him most when I signed him, 80/70/60 in the OF and 55 at first base. He's been playing CF for me at AA, though looking at his IF ratings right now, I might try and get him some time at 3B or SS. Of the 3, he seems the most ready to be moved up to AAA. I wish his OBP was a little higher, and hopefully as he reaches his potential it will. He could be on the team for Spring Training to see how he does and could be a starter next year if he plays well, depending on how FA goes for us.



What does everyone else think? Am I on the right track with these guys?
 

Travis7401

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If you want him to be a really good utility option, I would keep Macias in AAA for another year or two in order to get him plenty of playing time at both 3b and SS. If you want him to have that utility, at this point in his development you want him playing every game until he's got those positional ratings maxed, so don't call him up to the WBL unless it is an emergency or you plan to start him every day at that level. He's got the infield fielding ratings to be good at both, so he just needs experience. He'd probably hit 65 at 3B and 55/60 at SS in a couple of seasons. Make sure you get him involved at those positions in spring training as well. Once he's at 55/60 at all the infield spots, he'd be a very solid player with versatility. Otherwise if you want/need to call him up sooner, he should be ready to move up to the WBL as a 2B based on his current ratings. It is hard to find a complete bat like that at the MIF spots, so he's got more value than you are probably giving him credit for! I think he's definitely a future starter instead of a utility guy. Of your two future MIF players, Langille has more range and a better glove, so make sure you give Langille time at SS since you aren't in the playoff hunt anyway. He should be a 65+ position rating at SS with more work.

As for the outfield, Beast of Burden blows so getting rid of him in coming years opens up at least 1 spot. 40 contact will get you killed. Then you've got Grim Reaper getting old and sucking this year as well, so that opens up a 2nd spot. These guys should be WBL regulars by 2052 for sure.

Jim Payne isn't ever going to be a good 1B because his IF range and Error ratings are too low. Change his position and make sure the CPU stops playing him there. Play him at LF instead if you want increased versatility. His OF ratings mean he should be a +defender or ++defender at both corner spots and actually could probably have been a decent CF as well, but at age 24 with 0 experience there it might be a little late to start him. He'll improve rapidly at LF though! He's also got a good bat and is R-Bat, while your current WBL outfield is almost all L-Bat (4/5). That will make him a great platoon option to replace a guy like Grim Reaper against LHP since Reaper is only hitting .205 against LHP. I'd give him 1 more year at AAA and probably call him up next September because he's almost ready based on current ratings, which are old anyway. Have him replace Beast of Burden within the next year or two. If you ever end up wanting to trade him, let me know because he'd be a perfect platoon/compliment bat for my strategy.

Mason Brett is, at worst, going to be a really great 4th outfielder, utility, and defensive specialist for you and probably an eventual starter somewhere. Given the lack of good CFs in the league and the fact that you already have several players who can play CF, you might be able to dangle him as trade if you need other pieces. I'd suggest bringing him up to AAA next year and then promoting him to the WBL in September with Payne. Those two should replace Beast of Burden and Reaper by 2052 for sure.

The nice thing is you have a bunch of players who can play all 3 outfield spots at a high level, so you can really move people around and set up some nice platoons.
 

Gooksta

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I have 3 guys that I've moved to AA earlier this year and one of these looks like he's ready to come to AAA already. Problem is, two of them are OFers which I'm mostly set on.

Luis Macias

Plus defense at 2nd and 3rd, serviceable at SS. I might play him at SS for the remainder of his minor league career to see if I can get a bump at the position. Even if I dont, he'll be a great utility for me to have. OSA has him already almost at his potential, which is why I'm hurrying him through the minors. He should finish the year at AAA and be ready for the WBL by next year (hopefully). So far in AA, through 186 ABs, he's batting .339/.439/.570. He is striking out at a rate higher than I'd like, but he's reached his potential on avoid K's, so I think he is what he is. Him and Langille should be my MIF duo for the foreseeable future.

Jim Payne

Payne was my one of my first round picks in 2048. He played well, not great his first year, and then really figured it out this season at A level. I moved him to AA earlier this year and he's been solid so far. After about equal time in A/AA this year, I think I called him up at the right time and might need the rest of the year at AA before he's ready for AAA early next year. If he stays on his projected path, I hope he'll be ready for the WBL by 2051 ASG, if not before. I'm not in hurry to rush him though, because the only two positions he's rated for is RF and LF, where Nutball and Rivera are now. I want to play him at 1st for a while to see if he can get better there, but it might be too late. If not, he'll be a nice DH/platoon OF for me.

Mason Brett

A international guy I was able to sign 2 years ago who is finally developing. His defense is what intrigued me about him most when I signed him, 80/70/60 in the OF and 55 at first base. He's been playing CF for me at AA, though looking at his IF ratings right now, I might try and get him some time at 3B or SS. Of the 3, he seems the most ready to be moved up to AAA. I wish his OBP was a little higher, and hopefully as he reaches his potential it will. He could be on the team for Spring Training to see how he does and could be a starter next year if he plays well, depending on how FA goes for us.



What does everyone else think? Am I on the right track with these guys?
Imho opinion, Macias is wbl ready, Payne is AAA ready, and Brett needs more time in AA
 
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