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2088 Offseason Thread
- Thread starter Karl Hungus
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jdlikewhoa
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Here he is. The lowest common denominator getting his shots in.
Mr. Radpants
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They weren’t worth the money they were asking for, why?
They just didn't have the ratings of guys one would normally see being released. And in Moy's case, i was really interested because hes been healthy and hasn't pitched in two seasons with 75/60/55 ratings. You paid him 17 million over the last two seasons and he didn't play. So i was just wondering why, lol
Mr. Radpants
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Oh yeah. I had a couple players that were either lost on IR or lost in the ether. They showed up at arbitration so I dealt with them there. I've been busy and tanking until now, so whatever it was I didn't notice it. Ultimately, though - Moy was asking for over $10M so I decided to move on. Cairo got a steal at that price. The quick-sign FAs are kind of lame, but we do love when we land one.
Vega has clocked negative WAR for two years in a row. He has 55 power with no position. I guess if he replicates 2085 over a full season and you're a contact-first team it could be worth it.
Vega has clocked negative WAR for two years in a row. He has 55 power with no position. I guess if he replicates 2085 over a full season and you're a contact-first team it could be worth it.
Mr. Radpants
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Man remember when we did two FA sims a day?
Mr. Radpants
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Contact first team you say?
I’ve built that way for years, @Gooksta style lulz. Putting new twists in it this time.
fignuts
See You Next Wednesday
Is Chubby Checker on this new twist list? @Mr. Radpants
Mr. Radpants
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Wat
i mean, you released them and he signed them back in January before FA was even open. I was genuinely curious about why you dropped em and then specifically curious why moy didn't play, lol.
As for Vega, at DH i think hes a 2-3 WAR player. His ZR at 1B is one of the worst i've ever seen which explains the -4+ WAR over the last two seasons. Hes a good bat, just should have been at DH instead of 1B. Which, if you were tanking, was prolly by design, lol.
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fignuts
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Spotted em in the sim after playoffs and offered a few times cause they wanted 5+ years while I wanted 1 or 2 yr deals.
If its against the rules to negotiate after arb, I'll note it and refrain in the future. Not trying to cheese. Every sim, the first thing I do is go to the transactions screen/FA list/WW.
If its against the rules to negotiate after arb, I'll note it and refrain in the future. Not trying to cheese. Every sim, the first thing I do is go to the transactions screen/FA list/WW.
goblue96
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hayvis
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Which transaction screen? Asking for a friend.
hayvis
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Btw, @Mr. Radpants @fignuts - I didn't realise we were allowed to sign free agents in January? Are there exceptions and if so what are they, as it would be nice to know....
Happy we were able to dumb down the game for you bud.
This one is a little weird because Rad released them back in November. For instance my guys...Florian Knittle's history says "wasn't offered arb and became FA" on 12/2/87. Nelson Andres just "became a free agent" on 12/4/87. Juan Noriega declined his contract option in November and "became a free agent" on 12/4/87.
Rads guys, the two we're discussing, were just outright released on 11/13/87. Why he released them instead of just not offering arb or just letting them become free agents.....i don't know. If he had sent them through arb and non tendered them or just let them go to FA normally, then fignuts would have definitely broken the rule. It does kind of game the system since everyone just assumes that during these sims we can't offer free agents. Someone thats more up on the rules regarding this like orlando or karl would prolly give a better answer, if there is one
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well, there ya go
fignuts
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We arent. The loophole is I started talking the Chip series/once you out the playoffs. A few other released guys by FB got snatched up. KAB had 1 or 2 as well. The FA gate closes upon advance to ARB.
hayvis
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But you signed them in January. It's in the logs.
fignuts
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right. read above. i negotiated on multiple targets. I'll stop negotiating if the initial contract offer doesnt go through. or if these are against the rules to go after released guys in the FA pool, then re-release em. But I'd like that salary money returned.
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hayvis
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I thought it had been established now that it isn't in the rules. But I was just clarifying, because I've been burned for something similar before I knew any rules.
@Orlando @Karl Hungus - Can't we just establish a rule that you can only sign your own players back in the period between end of season and FA? Sniping other peoples cast offs before they reach FA doesn't seem great to me to me. Surely there's no need for this outside of signing back your own?
hayvis
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Am reel e trying not o cause a kerfuffle this mroing.
I wasn't pissed off, just confused. I'm not even in the market for a single (salaried) FA...
I’m fine either way. Once the regular season ends some people just go into off-season mode and start looking for players. For the most part the players signed are people who have been FA all year, so no one really cared. Some GMs start cleaning house early as well and release guys ahead of arb. You shouldn’t be doing hard negotiations with these players that last for months though haha. I’m fine establishing a rule like you suggested, it just takes someone policing.
I do feel a good general rule would be no signings(unless they're on your own team of course) from the last game of the world series until FA opens. Would negate issues like this in the future
fignuts
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Boy ballon, B. cept dat no signings unless they previous played. too much to keep track. cut and dry this.
@Karl Hungus check to see if you got my export
doh
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You signed them illegally. Release them.
doh
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It's pretty cut and dry: When Karl posts "FA is open" then offer simulation baseball players.
fignuts
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did you not read i dont want to start a kerfuffle dingus? thanks for ruining my positive vibes. just git apprived for 600K loan. no co-sign. but ill go head and focus on this fake beisbol team all mroing to appease us spergs instead. Want me to get your snuff box out while we at it?
Karl Hungus
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wat
doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
The cycle of cheat>rage quit normally takes 3-4 seasons... Much quicker this time.
No- I didn't read 50 posts... I just thought it's clear as day that you don't sign FA's until Karl literally posts "sign FA's".
Mr. Radpants
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I thought this was the rule. I had no idea figs signed them in November, lmbo.
Outright releasing them is easier from whatever screen I was on, that’s why I did it.
Karl Hungus
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You can sign guys who are already FA's up until the end of the season. After that you can't sign anyone until free agency opens in in the preseason. It's been this way since... forever?
fignuts
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first thing i see upon getting off the phone are these alerts and the replies from doh. verbal spew with no filter is what that was.
Karl Hungus
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Karl Hungus
Here to fix the cable
Mr. Radpants
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What I unknowingly and unintentionally cause WBL chaos, log off and come back to this crap show results
@Yankee151 knows this rule best. I believe we made it for him.