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Official 2014 BYU Thread
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doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
They had set up a 1-1-1 series (at Syracuse, at BYU, at MetLife Stadium) but the whole BYU not counting as a "Power 5" team for ACC/SEC teams sunk it.
Bdub
Well-Known Member
I will admit I made a few jokes. However I do hope he gets the help he needs.
Wooly
Well-Known Member
So sad Max Hall. The thing about guys with a big mouth is that people love to see them eat their words. If he was a little more humble he might get more sympathy, but I think grating personality ruined that. Why is Max Hall acting like his life is ruined. He made it to the NFL, got a little NFL cash. He should be set for life, instead he throws his life away and snorts his money up his nose. I do feel bad for him, but what a waste when people do that. I get it when you never had anything good in your life, but when successful people do it you just shake your head. What the hell?
Brick
Well-Known Member
Taysom sounds like a good name for a perpetual 4 year old. I think people don't tackle him well because of it. Softest name in footbaw history. Mommy said don't hurt little taysom
Watching this for skycam only.
Part of the honor code must be to talk shit after every play
Band of bros looking complacent
Watching this for skycam only.
Part of the honor code must be to talk shit after every play
Band of bros looking complacent
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
Earlier this week, Jim McMahon, who is battling dementia, completed his final two classes and will finally graduate. It hasn't been announced, but one of his teammates (Vai Sikahema, Pro Bowl Returner) who wrote the amazing article linked below let out that he will be honored on Oct. 3. No doubt he will enter the Hall of Fame and his number will be retired. The article made me a bit emotional that the greatest BYU QB in history will finally get the honors he deserves. I will probably cry at that game, especially because he will get a lot of love from the BYU fans who absolutely adore him.
Go Jimmy Mac!
Incredible college & pro stories about Jim McMahon
Go Jimmy Mac!
Incredible college & pro stories about Jim McMahon
Wooly
Well-Known Member
BYU is looking good so far. Their schedule is weak, but going undefeated is a real possibility because of it. They next 5 games are the only test they have (unless Cal gets better than we think they are), and then they coast through the last 4 while many teams ranked ahead of them are knocking each other off at the end of the season conference play. That is an easy way to rise up to a top 10 ranking.
I have wondered if ESPN would try and get an open schedule game late in the season (like the Army-Navy week) for top teams not in a Power 5 conf. It would be something like a bracket buster game in CBB. There are usually two ranked non-BCS teams, and I bet some dollar signs could make them want to play at the end of the season to help them make a case for a BCS bowl or playoff bid. I am sure the NCAA rule on capped games of 11 and 12 will fall shortly anyway to allow this to happen. BYU would probably be a candidate most years to play in such a game, and that would be a good selling point for ESPN.
I have wondered if ESPN would try and get an open schedule game late in the season (like the Army-Navy week) for top teams not in a Power 5 conf. It would be something like a bracket buster game in CBB. There are usually two ranked non-BCS teams, and I bet some dollar signs could make them want to play at the end of the season to help them make a case for a BCS bowl or playoff bid. I am sure the NCAA rule on capped games of 11 and 12 will fall shortly anyway to allow this to happen. BYU would probably be a candidate most years to play in such a game, and that would be a good selling point for ESPN.
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
Mac's not being in the Hall of Fame had nothing to do with the Honor Code. They have a strict policy that in order to qualify for their Hall and have your number retired, you have to have graduated from the school. Now that he's done that, it will be done.
The Power 5 would never allow a "play-in" game of sorts for a playoff spot.
Did you read the article? There's a great story about his first home game in Philly.
The Power 5 would never allow a "play-in" game of sorts for a playoff spot.
Did you read the article? There's a great story about his first home game in Philly.
Bdub
Well-Known Member
The only way to be honored is to be put in the hall? BYU has honored Ty multiple times.
Wooly
Well-Known Member
Not a play in game. Just an end of season game, which might help a non-power 5 team get some votes for beating another quality opponent. Kind of like Bracket Busters are set up in CBB.
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
Mac has been to Provo multiple times and has been honored in a variety of ways. The fans love him. I said nothing along the lines of the only way to be honored at BYU is to be put into the Hall. I'm curious what else you think BYU should have done to honor him anyway? Isn't the Hall and number retirement kind of the pinnacle?
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
With UMass becoming an Independent in 2016, it should come as no surprise that they have a 4-game series with BYU.
The first two games will be played in Provo in 16 and 17. The next two will be at Gillette Stadium in 18 and 19.
The first two games will be played in Provo in 16 and 17. The next two will be at Gillette Stadium in 18 and 19.
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
BYU and South Florida just announced a home-and-home series. At USF 2021 and at BYU in 2022.
This should offset some of the anger about playing in Massachusetts and Connecticut since Florida is a recruiting mecca
Not a big name team, but a tough trip and a good place to go for recruiting.
This should offset some of the anger about playing in Massachusetts and Connecticut since Florida is a recruiting mecca
Not a big name team, but a tough trip and a good place to go for recruiting.
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
Reading an article during lunch about McMahon in preparation for his jersey retirement Friday night, I learned that he wore sunglasses due to an eye injury as a kid. He was trying to untie a knot with a fork and got poked in the eye. It's pretty impressive that he played without the sunglass shade on his helmet considering he was rarely seen out of uniform without the glasses.
I love the story of him refusing to leave the field in the Holiday Bowl against SMU and slamming his helmet around and swearing at LaVell Edwards before he led the team to what may be the greatest comeback in NCAA history.
I'm pretty pumped for the ceremony at halftime. Anyone reading my thread planning to watch the game Friday night? I'm sure they'll show snippets of the jersey thing plus you get to fap at the royal blues for one night this season.
I love the story of him refusing to leave the field in the Holiday Bowl against SMU and slamming his helmet around and swearing at LaVell Edwards before he led the team to what may be the greatest comeback in NCAA history.
I'm pretty pumped for the ceremony at halftime. Anyone reading my thread planning to watch the game Friday night? I'm sure they'll show snippets of the jersey thing plus you get to fap at the royal blues for one night this season.
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
For those who like Jim McMahon or good stories, here's another from his college and pro career from the same writer as the one I linked before. It's a bit more Mormon-centric, but still good.
Jimmy Mac is the best!
Jimmy Mac is the best!
purple112
Go Berzerk
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jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
Senior JC transfer Christian Stewart steps in. I saw him in the spring game last year and liked what I saw. He's a little less mobile than Hill and not nearly as athletic. He's a better passer, though. He seemed amped up and maybe trying to play the hero in catch up and overthrew a lot on his way to three interceptions against USU. I thought he had a nice throwing motion, he was poised in the pocket and he was able to evade tacklers. But his lack of experience makes it a big drop from Hill. It will be interesting to see how he performs on a short week and long travel to UCF Thursday night.
Ammon Olsen had been the backup, but transferred to Southern Utah so he could start. I think he just won his first game last week. I wonder what he's thinking at this point.
Behind Stewart,there are three freshmen QBs. I only know a little about one because he's the nephew of a woman I work with. He was a big-time QB in Utah high school and returned from his mission a bit ago.
Ammon Olsen had been the backup, but transferred to Southern Utah so he could start. I think he just won his first game last week. I wonder what he's thinking at this point.
Behind Stewart,there are three freshmen QBs. I only know a little about one because he's the nephew of a woman I work with. He was a big-time QB in Utah high school and returned from his mission a bit ago.
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
BYU and Missouri announced a series today.
They will play next year at Arrowhead Stadium on Nov. 14 with a game in Provo on Nov. 7, 2020.
This shows that SEC teams are still open to scheduling BYU, even though the conference doesn't consider them a P5 opponent. Also, getting them in Provo in November will be nice (although it's WAY out there).
Next season, BYU better have a better defense and stay healthy on offense. They have quite a schedule lined up. BYU opens the season at Nebraska, hosts Boise State, visits UCLA, then travels to Michigan. Other opponents include Connecticut, East Carolina, Cincinnati, San Jose State and Utah State.
They will play next year at Arrowhead Stadium on Nov. 14 with a game in Provo on Nov. 7, 2020.
This shows that SEC teams are still open to scheduling BYU, even though the conference doesn't consider them a P5 opponent. Also, getting them in Provo in November will be nice (although it's WAY out there).
Next season, BYU better have a better defense and stay healthy on offense. They have quite a schedule lined up. BYU opens the season at Nebraska, hosts Boise State, visits UCLA, then travels to Michigan. Other opponents include Connecticut, East Carolina, Cincinnati, San Jose State and Utah State.
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
I forgot to add that the game at UNLV that was originally scheduled for next year and has now been replaced by the Missouri game will be moved to either 2016 or 2017.
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
I took mafam to BYUtv studios yesterday and we were in the live audience of their Countdown to Kickoff show they do before every football game. When the game starts, they bring down a huge screen for everyone to watch the game. Pizza and cookies are given to everyone at halftime. Then we stayed for the Postgame Show as well. We got on camera a few times. It was a lot of fun and something I'll always remember. I think it's something every BYU fan should do once.
It was nice that it was a very good game. The audience was really into it with a lot of energy in the room all game long. Very fun.
It was nice that it was a very good game. The audience was really into it with a lot of energy in the room all game long. Very fun.
Wooly
Well-Known Member
BYU needs to get at least 2, if not three, home games with power 5 teams every year. They need to stop getting these power 5 games as always away games first, so that they don't get backed out on. If they can't get decent home games I think they will decline as a program and cease to be a relevant program in D1A football.
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
I'm interested in what people think BYU's chances are of being invited to the Big XII? Does the Big XII go east for everything? Or is BYU's immediate availability, national fan base, and good relations with Texas and Baylor enough to get them what they and their fans so desperately want?
Also, how soon does the Big XII start making moves? Do they wait until their summer meetings? Or do they start sooner to avoid being snubbed as quickly as possible?
Also, how soon does the Big XII start making moves? Do they wait until their summer meetings? Or do they start sooner to avoid being snubbed as quickly as possible?
Clintmartian
Stringer Bell
They should go to the mountain west.
Bdub
Well-Known Member
Agreed they could make one of the big 6 bowl games all the time. As it is now they have no shot and they will have a tough time in a P5 conference as well.
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
Given the fact that the HC openly lobbied for inclusion in the Big XII this past summer and the school has indicated a general interest in being in a Power 5 situation, I'm surprised anyone could possibly think BYU WANTS to be indie anymore. Granted, it's the best option on the table right now (joining the MWC is out of the question at the moment). So they are happy independent. But they WANT to be in a P5, for sure.
Bdub
Well-Known Member
The church run's the schooner not the coach.
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
Again, from all the reports I've seen, the Church is on board with moving to a big-time conference. Whoever is saying otherwise either has information that I've never seen or heard or they are basing it purely on their conjecture and assumptions.
If you have to be interviewed by the heads of the Church to be hired as Head Coach, if the HC suddenly lobbied publicly for something the Church heads were against, he would have been fired pretty quickly.
If you have to be interviewed by the heads of the Church to be hired as Head Coach, if the HC suddenly lobbied publicly for something the Church heads were against, he would have been fired pretty quickly.
Bdub
Well-Known Member
I was just speculating based on the stated mission of the football team. I don't think winning titles is number one or two. Also what about the basketball team playing on Sunday?
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
No Sunday play is a University stand and not team specific.
Also, the HC, AD, and new school president have all expressed a desire to be a championship football team. So you can change your framework based on what has been stated as the mission of the football team on those comments that aren't even half a year old yet.
Also, the HC, AD, and new school president have all expressed a desire to be a championship football team. So you can change your framework based on what has been stated as the mission of the football team on those comments that aren't even half a year old yet.
Bdub
Well-Known Member
I think they used those unis back in the 80s.
Wooly
Well-Known Member
It was more royal blue, or at least that is what they called it. I don't think they have every had a North Carolina style "powder blue", but they used to have the more brilliant royal blue until the late 90s. At the end of LeVell Edwards tenure as coach they switched to a dark blue with tan trim for a few years, then switched in the early 2000s to what you see now, dark blue and white. I don't think they will change what they are now. The reason for the switch away from royal blue was that the fans wouldn't buy or wear that color of blue.
From this: Royal Blue
To this: "Cougar Blue" with tan
To Current: Navy blue and white
From this: Royal Blue
To this: "Cougar Blue" with tan
To Current: Navy blue and white
doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
I think the Big XII would be wise to add them as football only. You don't have to kill your other sports with travel. You get a team with a legit fan traveling fan base, tradition and resources to be good in the league. IMO they probably go undefeated this year if Hill's leg doesn't break.
I also think the situation has changed significantly from BYU's standpoint. They were getting great home and homes when they first became independent. Now I saw their last two were UMass and USF. They are getting some good ones with Pac-12 schools but it seems like the Nebraska, Texas, Notre Dame (didn't they already back ou?) series aren't happening. They aren't going to get a home and home with a ACC/SEC team because of the new rules, Big Ten teams going to 9 conference games will hurt them as does the Big XII playing 9. I think it's a lot more difficult to schedule now than it was when they first became indy.
I also think the situation has changed significantly from BYU's standpoint. They were getting great home and homes when they first became independent. Now I saw their last two were UMass and USF. They are getting some good ones with Pac-12 schools but it seems like the Nebraska, Texas, Notre Dame (didn't they already back ou?) series aren't happening. They aren't going to get a home and home with a ACC/SEC team because of the new rules, Big Ten teams going to 9 conference games will hurt them as does the Big XII playing 9. I think it's a lot more difficult to schedule now than it was when they first became indy.
jamesnathan
Resident Mormon
The Nebraska game is a one-time, neutral field game. Texas was a 2-for-1. Notre Dame has not back out, although the next 4 games haven't been set yet.
Yes some of the most recent announcements were UMass and USF, but unless you expect them to play 12 P5 teams every year they are going to mix it up a bit.
They have home-and-homes set with Washington, Arizona, Utah and Cal with 2-for-1s with USC and Stanford. They have a neutral game "at" Missouri with a home game later. So basically a home-and-home with an SEC team. And the have two games left in a 2-for-1 with Wisconsin. And they are in the middle of a huge home-and-home series with Boise State through the end of the decade.
Yes, it's not perfect. But even after the SEC said they won't count them as a power team they landed the Missouri series. Yes, there's concern that Missouri and Notre Dame could back out before games in Provo are played. But at this time, it's just a concern and not a fact. The schedule is a mix, but if you look at any one season it's a pretty good mix.
Yes some of the most recent announcements were UMass and USF, but unless you expect them to play 12 P5 teams every year they are going to mix it up a bit.
They have home-and-homes set with Washington, Arizona, Utah and Cal with 2-for-1s with USC and Stanford. They have a neutral game "at" Missouri with a home game later. So basically a home-and-home with an SEC team. And the have two games left in a 2-for-1 with Wisconsin. And they are in the middle of a huge home-and-home series with Boise State through the end of the decade.
Yes, it's not perfect. But even after the SEC said they won't count them as a power team they landed the Missouri series. Yes, there's concern that Missouri and Notre Dame could back out before games in Provo are played. But at this time, it's just a concern and not a fact. The schedule is a mix, but if you look at any one season it's a pretty good mix.