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Rutgers Mike
Dr. Sad
Contract might be bad from a average salary cap value, but it was front loaded, so it can always be moved to an Arizona or someone else, who doesn't want to spend money so they can reach the cap floor. Also, I believe it stops counting if he retires, unlike guys who signed contracts after 35.
Also, Flyers gonna do anything? Probly not.
Since @Southpaw is a Preds fan I'll do the Subban-Weber trade first.
Subban is a top 5 Defenceman. Complete package. Think Roman Josi but better at not allowing the other team to get shot attempts off. He's fun to watch, good in the community, great in transition. The reason why some people don't like him is he shows personality and since he's good at carrying the puck, he'll cough it up every so often. Both things considered negatives are way overblown in my opinion.
Weber has an albatross of a deal, doesn't seem too great at carrying the puck, and looked like a Coke Machine vs a "slow" San Jose team. He still shoots hard, produces well (that may tail off now that he doesn't have Josi) and looks like a hockey player. People love him because he's kind of what people grew up being told he's what a Dman should be. Not so much the case anymore.
Here's a pretty graph with some stats comparing the two. Let me know if you want some explanation.
This deal made @smeth cry. That alone should make you happy you got Subban. The Preds are better for making the trade. Just get rid of human garbage Ribeiro so I don't feel sleazy when I cheer for them.
So I don't really understand this graph very much, but Shea Weber is basically the worst shot suppressor in the history of the NHL or what? Does shot suppression mean blocking a shot, or just fucking them up before they get the shot off or both?
It's all corsi (all shot attempts, blocked or not) 5v5 relative based.
Corsi is basically what drives the posession type stats because if you're getting off more shot attempts, you likely have the puck more or are doing what you should be doing with it.
So basically when Weber (and Josi) is on the ice, the Preds get out Corsi'd more than the other two pairings. He and Josi are also on the ice for more shot attempts than the other guys on the Preds. Turns out the shutdown pairing for the Preds is Ryan Ellis and Mattias Ekholm. Those guys seem to never let an attempt get off.
Corsi is basically what drives the posession type stats because if you're getting off more shot attempts, you likely have the puck more or are doing what you should be doing with it.
So basically when Weber (and Josi) is on the ice, the Preds get out Corsi'd more than the other two pairings. He and Josi are also on the ice for more shot attempts than the other guys on the Preds. Turns out the shutdown pairing for the Preds is Ryan Ellis and Mattias Ekholm. Those guys seem to never let an attempt get off.
One of the bigger things now is Denied zone entries. Some research was done that found teams got more shots per possession off when they carried the puck in than dump and chase.
Maybe Ellis and Ekholm are better at just cutting that off. I could see Weber giving guys the zone because he's probably lost a step so he doesn't want to get blown by (See Kessel vs Girardi). Good teams would likely attack him more than Josi who I assume still has the wheels to challenge. Get in the zone on Weber's side, slow it down and then try and get a couple shots off on Rinne.
All this could be wrong since I don't want more than 2 Preds games a year.
Hopefully this has helped.
Maybe Ellis and Ekholm are better at just cutting that off. I could see Weber giving guys the zone because he's probably lost a step so he doesn't want to get blown by (See Kessel vs Girardi). Good teams would likely attack him more than Josi who I assume still has the wheels to challenge. Get in the zone on Weber's side, slow it down and then try and get a couple shots off on Rinne.
All this could be wrong since I don't want more than 2 Preds games a year.
Hopefully this has helped.
I look forward to you telling us how many Nashville hockey fans call him a knucklehead.
Anonymous ex Hab to Toronto Star: "They hated how much fun he had. The fact that he never sulked and pouted, win or lose, just bugged them"
Like I said, Weber looks like what you want in a dman.
Anonymous ex Hab to Toronto Star: "They hated how much fun he had. The fact that he never sulked and pouted, win or lose, just bugged them"
Like I said, Weber looks like what you want in a dman.
I'm sure there will be some, but there won't be any more than there would be in any other city in the country. The people who are hockey fans down here are not the sort to be redneck racists. They stick to the Titans and Vols.
The last game I went to I saw significantly fewer men with hockey jerseys tucked into their dad jeans.
The last game I went to I saw significantly fewer men with hockey jerseys tucked into their dad jeans.
That's what I kind of figured.
I just wanted to show how fucking dumb the Canadians are. The children's wing had a bunch of kids crying because he would just show unannounced, hang out and become friends with the kids.
Lost the wrong way though.
Guy who is from where I live now is a part owner of the Preds so I always give them some mind share.
I just wanted to show how fucking dumb the Canadians are. The children's wing had a bunch of kids crying because he would just show unannounced, hang out and become friends with the kids.
Lost the wrong way though.
Guy who is from where I live now is a part owner of the Preds so I always give them some mind share.
Is he involved in the lawsuit?
http://www.tennessean.com/story/mon...-owner-files-suit-against-team-250m/86038666/
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
Yeah they weren't going to re-sign him. They like Marek Mazanec that they have in Milwaukee.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
He's mainly a backup plan if Ryan White signs elsewhere.
Flyers aren't throwing $$$$ on big names.
4th liners getting 2 mil are usually how teams get cap starved.
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So do the people with the Weber jerseys.
Soonerfan09
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Osick, who is Frans Nielsen, and is he worth the 6 year deal the Wings gave him?
In a word. No.
32 yr old 2nd line Centre. Can play on PK, PP, ES. Good player but the Term and AAV is going to be ugly.
Well Leafs signed Matt Martin. So they still do dumb shit.
Rutgers Mike
Dr. Sad
Yeah I had never seen that before either. There is also a weird NHL article on Ducks.