2069 Contraction Draft

[jdlikewhoa]

My very uneducated opinion was to have contract and have a draft, but after looking through Wooly's team, it's probably best just to delete all players involved. It's pretty clear that he had O capabilities and edited his players.

If we do a draft, we go into it knowing that these players are cyborgs (possible launch into the spacetopia baeibol league) and hoping that spreading them out amongst teams will add a little balance.

 

[OU11]

You should have just edited him

he's one of the GMs who could have actually

 

[OU11]

He's really excited about his new team, tho.

Ugh what? An O said he thought they were edited.

an O said it was in the realm of possibility but that there was no evidence aside from shitty OSA scouting reports

 

[Mr. Radpants]

Ugh because you just don’t atop.

How should I atop?

 

[Orlando]

The 9mm Cafe?

 

[Orlando]

Kasib must have been edited too

 

[doh]

So he edited players? Is that serious?

I've actually spent a bit of time thinking and PMing with owners about it. I couldn't really find anything logical other than playing really good minor teams improving their stock by winning so much and having better stats. Teams have tried really high dev budgets and it helps but not a ton.

 

[doh]

Kasib must have been edited too

Kasib was no where close to this good and he's by far the best SP the game has ever had.

 

[Orlando]

Kasib was no where close to this good and he's by far the best SP the game has ever had.

Actually he was as far as ratings go.

 

[Orlando]

So he edited players? Is that serious?

I've actually spent a bit of time thinking and PMing with owners about it. I couldn't really find anything logical other than playing really good minor teams improving their stock by winning so much and having better stats. Teams have tried really high dev budgets and it helps but not a ton.

 

[jdlikewhoa]

Kasib must have been edited too

Look at his top players who all have every high possible intangible and low greed.

Tomas Gonzales who, despite never playing OF, maintained his serviceable OF ratings.

Or Kane Hayne who had a massive ratings jump in his 30's.

And these are just the three off the top of my head. Maybe one of these things happening wouldn't set off any alarms but lets look at the totality of circumstances

 

[ebarws6]

I'm okay with deleting everyone

 

[Mr. Radpants]

The 9mm Cafe?

I don't know what your problem is, but OU is the one that suggested that. I have just been looking at the situation and it has been obvious that something is wrong. If the integrity of the league is at question I don't know why we are doing a contraction draft with players that were either buffed through an exploit or edited.

 

[Orlando]

Look at his top players who all have every high possible intangible and low greed.

Tomas Gonzales who, despite never playing OF, maintained his serviceable OF ratings.

Or Kane Hayne who had a massive ratings jump in his 30's.

And these are just the three off the top of my head. Maybe one of these things happening wouldn't set off any alarms but lets look at the totality of circumstances

Maybe look at the totality of what he did and how it may develop a player with those intangibles. I just don’t see the rating editing as a real possibility.

 

[Orlando]

I don't know what your problem is, but OU is the one that suggested that. I have just been looking at the situation and it has been obvious that something is wrong. If the integrity of the league is at question I don't know why we are doing a contraction draft with players that were either buffed through an exploit or edited.

My problem is you are constantly complaining and it’s tiring. I know you think it’s cute because it gets likes and you have said as much, but it wears on me.

To answer you question it’s because the league allows for a level of talent and everyone else has struggled is because the talent is disproportionately on one team. Every time a prospect of yours fails, someone else’s succeeds. His success rate led to league wide failure.

 

[OU11]

There so absolutely no evidence he changed ratings, I thought Gwilt was going to be evidence until I checked his real ratings and they were not changed.

It is possible he could have. So could a bunch of other GMs past and present.

 

[NML]

Bucky? Why?

36 WARS WON the past three years

 

[Orlando]

36 WARS WON the past three years

I think we should ignore the stats, but maybe I’ll test it.

 

[OU11]

I don't know what your problem is, but OU is the one that suggested that. I have just been looking at the situation and it has been obvious that something is wrong. If the integrity of the league is at question I don't know why we are doing a contraction draft with players that were either buffed through an exploit or edited.

I'm sure he had no idea what O you were referencing. And I never suggested he edited players either. I said it was a possibility, and Gwilt would have changed my mind had there been even a tiny bit of evidence Gwilt's ratings changed.

 

[Yankee151]

Like at least 16 of Bucky's 36 WAR is because he was playing LF and not CF

 

[TonyGin&Juice]

I think we should ignore the stats, but maybe I’ll test it.

Does anyone have an old save file from before this season? I’m thinking I might have one on one of my servers at home but I’m on Needledick Road right now. I’m wondering how many personalities and ratings changes there were in this season.

 

[Orlando]

I do, but I’m not.

 

[TonyGin&Juice]

I do, but I’m not.

Afraid of proving ur old buddy Tony right?

Get back to me on that plane cost question boss.

 

[Mr. Radpants]

I'm sure he had no idea what O you were referencing. And I never suggested he edited players either. I said it was a possibility, and Gwilt would have changed my mind had there been even a tiny bit of evidence Gwilt's ratings changed.

You said that after you finally looked you realized something was wrong; either exploited or possibly directly edited. No one even knew that was possible until you brought it up.

 

[TonyGin&Juice]

You said that after you finally looked you realized something was wrong; either exploited or possibly directly edited. No one even knew that was possible until you brought it up.

 

[Mr. Radpants]

My problem is you are constantly complaining and it’s tiring. I know you think it’s cute because it gets likes and you have said as much, but it wears on me.

To answer you question it’s because the league allows for a level of talent and everyone else has struggled is because the talent is disproportionately on one team. Every time a prospect of yours fails, someone else’s succeeds. His success rate led to league wide failure.

wat

I have thought something is wrong with Wooly's system. Either a glitch or, now that it's been pointed out as possible, direct editing. I'm not alone in that view.

I don't think I've really gained many internet likes from complaining about that over the past months, either.

I think this draft is a bad idea if the integrity of the players is in question, but whatever.

 

[TonyGin&Juice]

What’s the worst that can happen if we do a draft for his guys - they become bums? As long as it doesn’t cost me an actual draft pick or draft pick money I’m willing to roll the dice on taking on a contract that’s for a guy that might not be a GOAT in south beach.

 

[OU11]

You said that after you finally looked you realized something was wrong; either exploited or possibly directly edited. No one even knew that was possible until you brought it up.

Right, so say that instead of this

Ugh what? An O said he thought they were edited.

 

[Mr. Radpants]

I already drafted, so some other loser is up

 

[Orlando]

wat

I have thought something is wrong with Wooly's system. Either a glitch or, now that it's been pointed out as possible, direct editing. I'm not alone in that view.

I don't think I've really gained many internet likes from complaining about that over the past months, either.

I think this draft is a bad idea if the integrity of the players is in question, but whatever.

I feel like your mission is to get me to quit.

 

[Mr. Radpants]

I'll just quit so you don't have to

 

[Karl Hungus]

How about no one quits, since it's against the rules and all?

 

[Orlando]

Maybe just quit it, and neither of us have to.

If you’ll want to delete the players because you are convinced he edited then fine. I don’t think he did and I think it’s bad for the league to delete them. I think he outsmarted us and ruined the game that way. Other people may not be able to accept that, but I played this game for fun not a homework assignment.

 

[TonyGin&Juice]

I think deleting them is a terrible idea.

I’m also sitting at dark Hampton Inn in Crystal City wondering why in the fuck I didn’t take that job with KPMG I got offered three weeks ago.

 

[Mr. Radpants]

I already drafted, whatever. Someone else is up

 

[Orlando]

There will never be a consensus on this. I should have just let you all vote and stayed quiet. I send out an Oplogy for that.

 

[ebarws6]

That would be me I guess, but I'm not the biggest fan of the contraction draft idea. Is this what we are actually doing?

 

[Yankee151]

Does anyone have an old save file from before this season? I’m thinking I might have one on one of my servers at home but I’m on Needledick Road right now. I’m wondering how many personalities and ratings changes there were in this season.

Tony is the expert of personality changes, so I support this

 

[Karl Hungus]

Are we including the BA players as well?

 

[Yankee151]

Yeah

 

[doh]

The contraction draft is going to freeze the league for a week. Maybe each team gets two picks and everyone else released? If we do 4 rounds of this, it is going to be so tedious.

 

[TonyGin&Juice]

The contraction draft is going to freeze the league for a week. Maybe each team gets two picks and everyone else released? If we do 4 rounds of this, it is going to be so tedious.

Fuck that. Ranked lists and the draft order and it should be easy to do. Don’t do a ranked list you don’t get picks.

I’m down with deleting them too but I think we’d need to disable the morale and personality components if we did that.

 

[Orlando]

We haven’t even started yet because we haven’t decided what to do. It also shouldn’t freeze anything because I’ll
limit the time people get and we can run the offseason simultaneously.

There is still a lot of opposition to it though.

 

[doh]

Yes but your off-season could be greatly shaped by the player(s) you get in this draft.

What if we put them all onto waivers? Is there a way to rank waivers a la fantasy? That might be the best way.

 

[Orlando]

Yes but your off-season could be greatly shaped by the player(s) you get in this draft.

Sounds like that makes it more interesting to me.

 

[doh]

If you put all players on waivers and basically did a waivers draft, how would that work? That way we could organize players by abilities, starrRrRz, positions, etc.

 

[Orlando]

Well then whoever had priority could just take them all

 

[doh]

Well then whoever had priority could just take them all

There's no way to rank like fantasy football?

 

[Orlando]

What do you mean?

 

[doh]

So you rank your players 1 through however you want.

The waiver order means that worst team gets 1st pick (so top team on their board) then 2nd team best player left in their order then the 3rd gets best player left on their list, etc. to the 18th pick. Then you flip over so the worst team gets another 1st pick (19th) like the draft.

I just don't know if there's a way in OOTP to rank waiver priority.