John Locke
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Yesterday before the games had been played they had around a 98% chance to get in. Every game result went the wrong way for them.
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goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
That's correct. I thought @adchester was talking about after the dust had settled last night.
A curling friend of mine talks like Gopher hockey is a blessing from God and we all should be thankful that it exists. I'll be happy to remind him, on Wednesday, who is in the tournament and who is watching from home.
adchester
Naz Reid
Let him know that they’ve lost to UMD 8 straight times for me too pls, thx.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
Any chance Minnesota-TwinCities makes a move for the coach at UMD.
adchester
Naz Reid
Definitely possibly but I’d say it’s pretty unlikely for a number of reasons.
Sandelin is a Hibbing native and a North Dakota graduate. UMTC hiring a UND grad probably wouldn’t go over the greatest.
Hiring the coach from your sister school is always a bit messy, especially with the fact that UMTC would have to pay him more than UMD could when UMD is going through a budget crisis caused mainly by UMTC taking in a disproportionate amount of the funding of the school system. Wouldn’t be the best look for the Twin Cities as a school.
Right now the names going around for the U job are Motzko(SCSU), Potulny(NMU), and Hastings(Mankato).
DeadMan
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The college hockey tournament is probably the worst way to decide a championship in sports. The last at large in will probably win, because they're playing a home game essentially. The number 1 seed went out to the last seed, and that happens pretty frequently. You're just as likely to win the tournament as the last at large as you are as the number one overall seed.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
Best two of three series, then? That would really drag out the tournament doe.
adchester
Naz Reid
HOT TAKES in here. How is it any different than the basketball tournament that is universally loved, where I seem to remember the 1 seed went out to the last seed too?
DeadMan
aka spiker or DeadMong
Well, that's happened literally once in the history of the basketball tournament. It happens like every third year, if not more often, in the hockey tournament. And that was the only time it's happened to a 1 seed in the basketball tournament, but 4 seeds beat 1 seeds routinely in the hockey tournament.
Basketball is an entirely different game from hockey. Games in the hockey tournament are weighted coin flips, where the best odds to win are probably 70%. Which still means you lose fairly often. And most games are closer to 50-50, so it's just really random. It shitty to be the clear number one seed over the course of a season and then get bounced in one game because you ran into a hot goalie.
This isn't a dig at just UMD this year, which I know has a ton of talent (and there were fewer at large bids this year, so they're better than the usual last at large bid).
I would prefer that the first weekend now be extended out to best of 3 series. Keep the Frozen Four as single elimination, because even a 3 game series would be 50/50 at that point. So you add a week to the hockey tournament. Then you have the higher seeds host the first two rounds, which is a vast improvement in what currently happens. The first two rounds are just dead and played in front of like 2,000 people. It's insane.
adchester
Naz Reid
That’s fair, I think it would be better at representing the best team of the season to move to that, but I kinda like that you have to show up (and usually be kinda lucky too) each and every game. Going to a series would reduce the amount of upsets but I don’t really know by how much. Hockey has a lot of parity and if you’re in the top 16, you can definitely take a series from the top team in the country on any given weekend.
I love the having the top seed host for the first two rounds though. No idea why they don’t do that
I love the having the top seed host for the first two rounds though. No idea why they don’t do that
DeadMan
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I think some teams/fan had really bad or scary experiences when they used to that. Love Michigan hockey, but when Yost is rocking and angry, it can be extremely hostile. Parents of the opposing team wanting to fight fans is not unusual. Great for Michigan, not great for anybody else there.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
Yost, in the mid 90's, before Michigan started to make all renovations was a hell on earth for the visiting team. Helped that they had teams which could flat skate the opposition off the ice. Brendan Morrison, Mike Knuble, Jason Botterill, John "The One Man Penalty Kill" Madden, Bill Muckalt, Steve Shields/Marty Turco in net. Wasn't uncommon for Michigan to drop 10+ goals on the bottom teams in the league.
Man, I loved that barn before the renovations.
DeadMan
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It was still amazing as of 2009. It went a bit downhill after that, but the team got shitty then. I'm not sure it will have the same feel ever, but I think they could get close. Mel's turned around the program in the second half of the season. This team isn't that offensively talented, and it sill scored a ton of goals in the second half of the year. They have an iffy goalie situation, too. Still made the Frozen Four. They might have a future #1 NHL draft pick coming next year. Plus a ton of other great prospects coming. It's going to get really good really fast.
adchester
Naz Reid
Crazy series in Denver this weekend. Last night Denver’s goalie stood on his head to preserve a shutout for Denver despite being outshot by about 30. Tonight Denver went into the 3rd period up 3-0 and UMD came back to tie it with a second left in regulation and win it in overtime.
This year’s UMD team is crazy good. Probably better than the championship teams of the past two years. Which almost certainly means they’ll lose in the first round of the tournament but oh well. We’ve got our share of puck luck lately.
This year’s UMD team is crazy good. Probably better than the championship teams of the past two years. Which almost certainly means they’ll lose in the first round of the tournament but oh well. We’ve got our share of puck luck lately.
adchester
Naz Reid
St. Cloud State and losing in the first round as the #1 overall seed, name a more dynamic duo.
UMD definitely has the talent to make a third straight national championship game this year, but I don't have my hopes up. The luck has to run out sometime and a single elim tourney is damn hard.
UMD definitely has the talent to make a third straight national championship game this year, but I don't have my hopes up. The luck has to run out sometime and a single elim tourney is damn hard.
adchester
Naz Reid
I mean yes...but its been six years lol. Don't have to be great but should be past the 20-2 stage.
Hockey in the south just sucks tho, even if they were good. If you can't play pond/public park hockey whats the point.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
adchester
Naz Reid
UMD is not as good this year as the past two championship years so I'm not getting my hopes up but Sandelin coached teams don't have bad games in the tourney. Should be a fun competitive game. Hopefully whoever wins kicks North Dakota's ass.
DeadMan
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goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
Welp. So much for watching good hockey today. When do the Flyers allow five goals next?
I like when they word it like this. It's the protocol's fault. Not that a fairly small group of people couldn't properly quarantine themselves for arguably the most important tournament of their lives by just wearing masks.
DeadMan
aka spiker or DeadMong
Notre Dame also got booted from the tournament from COVID. The thinking is that there was a COVID outbreak at the Big Ten hockey tournament.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
Oh @adchester
adchester
Naz Reid
Smh, just bad D at the end. North Dakota has the momentum, but I guess its anyone's game in OT. If UMD doesn't pull it off, no shame in losing to UND though.
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
First goal was lazy goaltending.
Second goal was lazy defending by #6. He was defending air not a body.