Same gameplan for the final! Own goal and a soft penalty gift
That flop and call are reminiscent of some Man United Fergie time crap
That flop and call are reminiscent of some Man United Fergie time crap
The six minutes of injury time, lol. Plus the extra minute beyond that where the ref let England have the ball. UEFA was terrified of having an empty Wembley for the final.
If you honestly thought Ingerland didn't deserve to win that game, or that we were in the refs favour, you're fucking mad (or just pathetically biased). He let the Danish pull our players over on virtually every attack of the game without a yellow card.
We played much better than them. We deserve to be in the final. And I am not someone that doesn't give Ingerland shit when they deserve it.
You sound like someone who watched 14 hours of prematch coverage.
Ya'll limped into the final but you're still in the final. Be happy
England should have lost but they won, be happy.
If you honestly thought Ingerland didn't deserve to win that game, or that we were in the refs favour, you're fucking mad (or just pathetically biased). He let the Danish pull our players over on virtually every attack of the game without a yellow card.
We played much better than them. We deserve to be in the final. And I am not someone that doesn't give Ingerland shit when they deserve it.
copa america final >>>>>>> euro final
I’m not sure where @hayvis is getting his numbers, too. This is what I saw:
That seems more reasonable to me than 3 xG. England were clearly better, but they easily could have lost this game. It wasn’t dominant.
spewing this shit ruins the credibility of xG imo.
everything has to have context. like, its great that ingerland outshot denmark, but once denmark got the early goal, game script was always going to push the game in that direction. also, playing at home vs denmark - a team who is nowhere near the 4th best team here - england SHOULD have a huge xG advantage
once denmark got their first goal, their incentive to get a 2nd dropped a ton. if england scores first, the relative value of each shot changes massively.
anyways, england has completely grinded their way to the final. shitty performances across the board considering the opponent and locations. 1.01 xGF vs .88 xGA and they played a group of middle aged croatians, scotland, czech, ukraine, denmark, and the worst germany side in years, mostly at home.
not to say they wont win or dont "deserve to be here" whatever the hell that means, but theyve so bad relative to expectation. italy not a ton better since they had a bunch of shitty opponents in the group stage and HFA.
copa america final >>>>>>> euro final
The other @Yankee151 Euro thread would've been better than this one.
I’m not sure where @hayvis is getting his numbers, too. This is what I saw:
That seems more reasonable to me than 3 xG. England were clearly better, but they easily could have lost this game. It wasn’t dominant.
You lot don't even fucking read. At no point do I say that the game was anything but a grind? I literally make the point that it was... Of course we ground it out, and I explained perfectly well that it was because we had to.
That however doesn't invalidate my comment that we were the better team and deserved to win the game, or that we beat Denmark in nearly every statistic.
Please don't speak to me as if I don't know how football works.
To be honest, why am I surprised? Y'all being absolutely stereotypically American in your assessment of the game. The subtleties are completely lost on you. As long as no-one is defending and the game is an open attacking shit show, true Murrican's love it, which you've kindly backed up for me by suggesting what a wonderful tournament the Copa America is. Of course it's a marquee final as they're the only two fucking decent teams in the competition - What is it, like 4 times out of 20 that either Brazil or Argentina hasn't been in the final - GREAT TOURNAMENT .
I'm sure if France and Belgium were entitled to stroll their way to the Euro finals (this year), it would have made for a great spectacle, but that's not how it works when you have a variety of tactics at play and a plethora of top teams in the tournament. I'm not sure how exciting it is for me to watch two teams who are expected to win a competition battle it out for a meaningless trophy one of them was expected to easily win? You must like the finals of those pre-season friendly tournaments. I'm sure they're very exciting for you.
Copa America is a piss ball competition because you don't have the variety of defensive tactics of European football. It's the weakness of South American teams (with the exception of maybe Uruguay and Argentina to a smaller extent) when they end up against Euopean competition, because they don't have to regularly grind it out against spoiler teams like Denmark or face defensively superior teams. But to a dumb fuck American it looks better because there's more goals, mistakes and you get da GOAT teams in da final moar often. It's absolutely laughable that you can pretend some analytical superiority and then come out with this thick headed Murrican cliche...
Btw, I agree with Caley Graphics assessment, but Xg philosophy is actually more mainstream.
both models are complete shit, btw
what's funny is every post you make here screams "typical ingerland football fan" to me to me. thinks they have the game solved, overrates england massively, thinks americans know nothing, etc, etc
im not even going to argue with you on the technical side of the game or your terrible tactical analysis. its as embarrassing as when you tried to teach me about how gambling works lol.
feel free to make a friendly wager with me on the sport, would gladly take some of ur money from ur ivory ingerland tower. ill even give the winnings to a ULG in need. maybe youll run away like chibob to avoid paying and all of utopia will win
- lastly, not only do you need pbp, but you need player locations. the easiest way to see why this is important is imagine a shot from 30 yards away. your normal shot from there is basically worthless, maybe .02 xG. but if there’s no defenders in the way, it goes up. and if the player just rounded the keeper, well now it’s basically a tap in. generic shot data doesn’t capture all this
Isn't it?saying I AM MOAR CRITICAL OF MA'TEAM THAN ANYONE is straight out of the @jamesnathan and school of homerism.
saying I AM MOAR CRITICAL OF MA'TEAM THAN ANYONE is straight out of the @jamesnathan and school of homerism.