Summary: Big 12 has better "depth" than ACC, PAC-12, acknowledges Boise/Memphis were next in line
Okay Bob. Keep living in fantasy land. It’s not about depth, it’s about name value.
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Maybe Louisiana Tech and Texas-El Paso along with New Mexico State can convince the WAC to go FBS.
Okay Bob. Keep living in fantasy land. It’s not about depth, it’s about name value.
Okay but he said they have more depth than the Pac 12 and ACC. They don’t. You can compare it many ways, name value, championships, recent success, etc."Well, you can’t replace the bell-cow programs, the national brands that are OU and Texas. We couldn’t have that aspiration because we could’ve brought in Alabama and Ohio State, and it wouldn’t raise the bar from a brand and media standpoint in comparison to OU and Texas’ impact.
But I think that we went after the four best institutions we could get. They’re all competing at a high level. They all have very high top-ends. They are in terrific recruiting areas—not so with BYU, but BYU is habitually in the top 25 and certainly has a national and even international recruiting environment. So, I just think we did the very best we could."
Seems like a realistic assessment of the situation to me.
So it looks like C-USA is backfilling with Liberty, New Mexico State, Jacksonville State and Sam Houston State.
133 FBS Schools now. Also Alabama has six FBS schools while California and Florida only have seven each.
If MTSU and WKU do go to the MAC as reported, then CUSA is going to need one more FCS team on top of these to get to eight all-sports members, which is the required minimum. FB-only members like UMass won't do it for them.
Tarleton State, which is reclassfying from D-2 to FCS right now, is one of the rumored teams. The other is Lamar. I'd really like to see NDSU, but I don't think that's going to happen (though FB-only would be interesting).
So it looks like C-USA is backfilling with Liberty, New Mexico State, Jacksonville State and Sam Houston State.
133 FBS Schools now. Also Alabama has six FBS schools while California and Florida only have seven each.
I don't believe Sam is in a position to pay a $2 mil entry fee. We'll see.
That was an awesome basketball conferenceOG C-USA was awesome
Marquette
DePaul
Saint Louis
Cincinnati
Louisville
Memphis
Charlotte
South Florida
Alabama-Birmingham
Southern Mississippi
Tulane
Houston
I just remember being excited to see Louisville be in the same conference as the Great Midwest schools (minus Dayton).
Once the Big East took Cincinnati, Louisville and South Florida and C-USA kicked out the non-FB schools (Charlotte, DePaul, Marquette and Saint Louis), the conference wasn’t the same.
George MasonGMU? I'm lost.
GMU? I'm lost.
Well, I'm wrong again.I don't believe Sam is in a position to pay a $2 mil entry fee. We'll see.
They should be. MACtion is the more stable option right now.
Would it be easier logistically to just have Army and Navy be in the same conference/division? Would allow for more OOC scheduling flexibility.
I actually love the idea of historical conference lines but there's a couple things that might be problems.
If you don't share TV revenue, you'll up with financial disparity amongst conferences and schools(like it is now basically). It also makes it difficult for upwardly mobile programs to find spots.
Not football but Loyola going from the MVC to the A-10 came out of nowhere.
It's probably a push competition-wise but I think the bottom half of the A-10 is consistently better than the bottom half of the MVC. Top half is a wash most years.
Seems like it's just always tricky for Chicago schools.My fear is that this is another Fordham. Despite the Final Four run, no one cares about Loyola here in Chicago. It’s almost like the Rogers Park version of Northwestern just up Sheridan.
My fear is that this is another Fordham. Despite the Final Four run, no one cares about Loyola here in Chicago. It’s almost like the Rogers Park version of Northwestern just up Sheridan.
Seems like it's just always tricky for Chicago schools.
I went to UIC but I'll pretty much always be a Illini fan. But when UIC upset the Illini(2010?) a lot of people seemed to want UIC wiped off the map instead of celebrating a once in ages upset. Shows about how much real investment the school will ever get. Oh and it's "a commuter school" so fuck it.
UIC had a really shitty ice hockey team back in the day too. Michigan usually pounded them something like 9-0/10-1.
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If it’s any solace, UIC has climbed up the U.S. News rankings in recent years and has the highest Carnegie research designation.
UIC is tricky for two reasons
As for the others:
- College Basketball isn’t popular in Chicago
- Maybe it’s changed since I went there but the a lot of students were first generation immigrants that don’t care about sports.
DePaul has been bad for so long they’re irrelevant. Also I’m still pissed they used public money to build Wintrust Arena. Just a boondoggle.
Loyola is sort of the rich kid Catholic school (like Villanova) which means outside of Rogers Park and the North Shore they have minimal reach.
Same deal with Northwestern. A lot of students from outside Chicagoland and they don’t stay after graduation. Also speaking from personal experience, one of the bigger town vs. gown battles that I know of.
Chicago State really should not have a D1 program at this point. Just go the Northeastern Illinois route, drop athletics and continue to provide an education to a part of the city that really needs it.
Northern Illinois got a hard lesson on how much they matter in Chicago when they had that game at Comiskey.
B1G and Notre Dame run Chicagoland with very little room for the local schools.
My fear is that this is another Fordham. Despite the Final Four run, no one cares about Loyola here in Chicago. It’s almost like the Rogers Park version of Northwestern just up Sheridan.
Also the MVC are looking to backfill with Murray State, Kansas City and Texas-Arlington. Screams one bid league now.
I'm curious if Wichita is interested in going back now that the AAC has lost UConn, Cincy, and Houston and replaced them with 6 shitty basketball programs.
Creighton and Tulsa aren’t in the MVC either. Also don’t think they want to possibly be in the same as Kansas City.
The day.... The FOOOOOTBAWL died.Tradition died in ‘01 with the Rose Bowl on like a Monday night with Miami and Neb.