hayvis
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Marcos Alonso officially signed, and apparently David Luiz is having his medical at Chelsea right now.
Why on earth anybody would buy David Luiz back after selling him for a tidy profit is baffling.
Marcos Alonso officially signed, and apparently David Luiz is having his medical at Chelsea right now.
Why on earth anybody would buy David Luiz back after selling him for a tidy profit is baffling.
Got him back and still made 10m net profit between sold price and buy back price. Not the worst deal ever.
Wilshere should go to the championship. It's really physically light and easy on the players.
No way. David Luiz makes any team a champion!
Got him back and still made 10m net profit between sold price and buy back price. Not the worst deal ever.
Isn't there some though that Luiz might be slotted into a libero role as a 3rd center back? That would make a lot more sense than bringing him back to partner with Cahill or Terry. At least if you have two other CBs covering, Luiz's crazy won't leave them as exposed.
There is really no reason to play moneyball if you don't have extremely limited funds. Oakland played moneyball because their stadium and fanbase were the equivalent of a trailer park and its denizens.
I don't have the time to watch that, but assuming moneyball means using advanced stats to win games, none of Kroenke's other teams use it. The Avs used to actively ignore any sort of advanced stat.
If it means being cheap, then yeah, all of his teams have done that.
I think it just doesnt work with football.
I mean, whats your quantifier? Doesnt concede goals? Scores goals? Lots of assists?
With moneyball (the film) they kept going on about getting on base - was that what they actually used in real life? I just cant think of something similar in football, because any tangible quality which would be desirable would instantly make a player expensive.
I don't think it works at all. Oakland As never won anything. That's all you need to know.
But they did, didnt they? They won their league but lost the play offs? Also didnt they break a record for wins?
I may do a FM dynasty based on money ball and see where I get to.
I would be surprised as hell if Kroenke doesn't use statistics for his other clubs. He bought the world's largest stats company, based in Chicago called statsdna, according to Jon Smith. It's a really good interview if you get the time.
Didn't win a World Series, which means they didn't win anything.
Isnt that theyre Champions League though? If so, Arsenal havent won anything either
I don't think that's fair. It worked, but you need prolonged succes to win a championship generally. After the A's accomplished what they did with the payroll they had, other teams with more money took notice. It's tough to compete with that.Didn't win a World Series, which means they didn't win anything.
I love how its the 'moneyball system' like its some advanced mathematics system that took abunch of programming monkeys hours to make that they retro fitted for soccer stats.
Using advanced statistics for evaluation was kind of the byproduct of moneyball. You can't really be a huge club like Arsenal and be a moneyball team. Moneyball is exploiting something that's undervalued in the market to try to catch up to the clubs that can actually spend money.
I love how its the 'moneyball system' like its some advanced mathematics system that took abunch of programming monkeys hours to make that they retro fitted for soccer stats.
Moneyball was about willing to approach the game slightly differently due to severe budget constraints. Instead of focusing on scouting and projecting amateur players, it was about focusing more on their amateur results. For veterans, it was about finding skills the league didnt value nearly as much as other skills.
There was really very little 'analytical stats' used. It was more the main baseball stats that they tried to focus on from a slightly different angle.
Exactly what soccer stats are used to value a player besides goals, assists, ect?
A small club can't afford even what Arsenal is buying.
Because the Oakland A's could spend much, much less than that.I don't get this at all. We are literally using Billy Bean inspired sabermetrics, according to every report, analysis of our spending available, and yet you say it's impossible to compare us to the Oakland As.
God damn, @hayvis, you'll just bitch about everything with Kroenke. The problem is that club is too cheap to buy the players we need. Which is probably ultimately a Kroenke issue.
But this is insane to bitch about. I would be worried if Arsenal weren't spending money trying to use stats to improve their team. I would imagine every major club is doing something like this. I guarantee that the first club that figures out meaningful advanced statistics for soccer is going to be at a huge advantage. Humans are extremely fallible when it comes to scouting. Having stats that can improve your understanding of a player is invaluable. The hard part is that the stats in soccer are not nearly advanced enough. Good for Arsenal to spending money trying to do this. Dismissing all stats out of hand is you just being a luddite.