Mr. Radpants
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League Evolution (NEW ARB CONTRACT RULE IN OP)
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We've been done 3-4 days before the last few years, i think we'll be fine.
@Mr. Radpants
The problem is definitely the league's season not being before the draft. Feeders will be inched up every year so they finish before the draft. I can also put the draft pool out 200 days in advance if I want to so the league can start in february eventually. I can only change the feeder start date in the preseason so it will be two years before it's set up correctly.
The problem is definitely the league's season not being before the draft. Feeders will be inched up every year so they finish before the draft. I can also put the draft pool out 200 days in advance if I want to so the league can start in february eventually. I can only change the feeder start date in the preseason so it will be two years before it's set up correctly.
That involves house rule, if I make it across the board there is a setting for that and nobody has to police.
I think 6 is a good number honestly, I can't think of a reason people would really care about lowering it but I'm sure some would. If anybody has a good reason for contracts 6+ years long enlighten me
No stipulation. no settings for stipulation
Mr. Radpants
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Doh would self police it even if we come up with a formula that required Excel.
I wanted to police him back after this weekend but he only gives awful contracts so oh well.
I wanted to police him back after this weekend but he only gives awful contracts so oh well.
We'll leave post arb contracts at 10, just the first contract will be limited.
Mr. Radpants
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As long as Schauwn can offer 48.5 per year I think we're straight.
doh
THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
I really don't think changing the max lengths of a contract does anything/has anything to do with this whole issue/solves anything.
What Yankee said I think is true. I don't think any arb/FA should be bought out until at minimum guys are between 1-2 years of service. If it was up to me, they'd need minimum 2 years service. The game just doesn't know how to deal with it. It's much worse than the "20% rule" and I'm fine abolishing the 20% rule if we allow the Rad contracts to happen.
What Yankee said I think is true. I don't think any arb/FA should be bought out until at minimum guys are between 1-2 years of service. If it was up to me, they'd need minimum 2 years service. The game just doesn't know how to deal with it. It's much worse than the "20% rule" and I'm fine abolishing the 20% rule if we allow the Rad contracts to happen.
Well luckily I know that having the big contracts later means that you're most likely wrong.
In previous versions if you signed a guy for 4.2M to buy out arb it would decrease his next contract amount. In 16 that doesn't happen. If we change the max length it does solve the big problem of buying out FA years.
Mr. Radpants
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I don't like buying out FA years regardless
Mr. Radpants
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Maybe we should outlaw extensions and contract negotiations completely. We'll just always use arbitration instead and doh can be the arbiter.
doh
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Why have a house rule against exploiting the AI of the game for that yet nothing for this? If we aren't going to have a house rule for exploiting the AI for these less than 30-40 days of service deals, let's just have no house rules.
It has already passed.
I do think we should wait for 1 year of service time though, Rad really did find a pretty huge loophole that is really significant.
I can sign Bret Nutball Johnson for 735k right now for 5 years. If I bring him up this year I'd be buying out two arb years of a really good player. It's what rad did basically by not allowing the arb estimates to work.
I'm on doh's side now, but I don't think we should have to wait 2 years. I think one would suffice.
I really don't think this makes the difference you think it does. In fact I would argue Rad wouldnt pay more more if anything for Pendragon at that point. I don't think his estimate would shoot up to $10m.
Mr. Radpants
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Onesha, trade me another stud so I can look for new loopholes.
Updated the FAQ, this is what we are going with from this point forward. If it still needs working on we'll work on it but I think this is a good start.
ARB CONTRACTS
Pre-arbitration extensions must wait until the player has one year of service time and must at least be equal to the arbitration estimate. Pre-arbitration contracts have a maximum length of 5 years.
If a player has gone through an arbitration hearing, the buyout of each future arbitration eligible year must be equal to or greater than the amount awarded to the player.
Example:
Player was awarded $7 million in arbitration in 2022
Correctly structured contract extension: 2023 $7m, 2024 $7m, 2025 $7m
Incorrectly structured contract extension: 2023 $6m, 2024 $7m, 2025 $8m or 2023 $4m, 2024 $5m, 2025 $6m
Contracts will be reviewed and altered to equal arbitration award
ARB CONTRACTS
Pre-arbitration extensions must wait until the player has one year of service time and must at least be equal to the arbitration estimate. Pre-arbitration contracts have a maximum length of 5 years.
If a player has gone through an arbitration hearing, the buyout of each future arbitration eligible year must be equal to or greater than the amount awarded to the player.
Example:
Player was awarded $7 million in arbitration in 2022
Correctly structured contract extension: 2023 $7m, 2024 $7m, 2025 $7m
Incorrectly structured contract extension: 2023 $6m, 2024 $7m, 2025 $8m or 2023 $4m, 2024 $5m, 2025 $6m
Contracts will be reviewed and altered to equal arbitration award
Mr. Radpants
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I'm going to link these threads and apply to be an OOTP beta tester. Would love to get Markus as worked up as doh.
I love his German twitter profile, go Bomber Bears.
I love his German twitter profile, go Bomber Bears.
Well I was posting that before you just up and made the rule
Well I was posting that before you just up and made the rule
Yeah I got to thinking about it and I saw that nutball was asking for the same 735 meaning it really is something you can cheat. The AI lags in updating demands so it only makes sense to wait for a year of service time
jdlikewhoa
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Nvm
Mr. Radpants
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Why nvm, I don't think ur post was wrong.
Schauwn
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That's what I'm saying tho, I dont think it's an issue any more, so why have the rule. If a guy is willing to take less than his arb (which we agree is unlikely) then why limit it, I dont think we're going to be able to take guys for millions on their second contract...
If I made a rule that you can't send your players to mars during the season, is it really hurting anything?
Mr. Radpants
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It will break our future Spacetopia Baseball League, so yes.
I'm saying, why is it so bad that the rule is there from OOTP14? I don't change these things and I still don't want that to ever happen. If it can't happen that's great, I'm justwondering why it's so important to delete the language from the rule book