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Saints taking out payday loans to sign players b/c Brees got all the money

Reel

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@goblue96

Re: Rivers

He's improved, but still has a ways to go into his development offensively. Defensively, he's probably the best perimeter/on ball defender out of the guards.

Still not ready to hand the keys over to him just yet, but he's definitely improved since his abysmal rookie campaign.

He still needs to improve on finishing at the rim and his mid range jumper and by improve, i mean he needs to work on those two things everyday during the off season. He is what we thought he was going to be at this point
 

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Pierre Jackson should be getting time in New Orleans...


@Clintmartian

I questioned this pick on draft day and even more now that he hasnt played a single game for them this season when there have been plenty chances for them do so. I keep reading that Brian Roberts isnt the future, so why not at least see what Jackson has? Once Holliday, Anderson, Smith went out for the season, that pretty much killed any chance at the playoffs so why not bring him in just to see how he compares to NBA talent.

The pelicans arent the spurs where they can afford to stash players away in the D-league/overseas. They need contributions right now. He will probably get traded to somewhere and end up being 6th man of the year or something.
 

Clintmartian

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He's an amazing scorer both in college and when he was in the D-League. I know it's just the D-League, but he did break the single game scoring record while he was playing here for Idaho.

I'm with you on this @Reel, I'm not really sure why you wouldn't see what he can do in a reel game.
 

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I also dont think the pels counted on him being as good as he's been tbh. They probably thought he would just fizzle away and then just release him like the majority of 2nd round picks almost every year.

BUT, i have to assume that something is still in the works b/c they havent relinquished his rights yet.
 

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De La Puente bout to peace out. Who gon hike da baw now?
 

kella

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better make sure he's not on PEDs

can't have him violating the sanctity of the Saints
 

goblue96

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Do the Saints have a weight room or do they just let their players muscles atrophy into noodles?
 

GR8 2 B FL G8R

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top 3 defense last year...no noodles

just matched the Failclowns offer for Rafael Bush. Looks like our 335 Big is here to stay with 3 safeties on the field most passing downs
 

JSU Zack

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Looks like our 335 Big is here to stay with 3 safeties on the field most passing downs

I noticed we played a lot of 1 high, but I didn't notice us running a bear front all season. Has anyone broke this down? I just saw 3-4 Cover 1/3 when I was watching.
 

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i could've sworn this was the new orleans teams sports thread

~checks thread title~

confirmed...

this an A and B conversation brah, you can C yo way up outta here
 

OU11

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I was just complimenting the use of meaningless facts bru. Dont get all aggitated
 

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How do you feel about the Pelicans season? Seems like some good development from Davis, amazing how far he has come in a few years. Coaching still looks awful, at least from afar
 

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wasnt meaningless unless your complimenting was a cover for trolling.

keep in mind, it was you that came in here with it. I didnt go to the NBA thread and post that stat. Not saying you cant come in here and be apart of the discussion, but lets not pretend thats what you want to do in the first place.
 

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How do you feel about the Pelicans season? Seems like some good development from Davis, amazing how far he has come in a few years. Coaching still looks awful, at least from afar


Where do I begin?

A.Davis - dont mean to beat this drum, but dude is legit and is a blast to watch. Im so glad i got to see him play in person this year. Albeit it was against the Kobe-less Lakers but still.

I still support the draft day trade. No one saw Holiday getting hurt, but if you've watched more than a 15 sec clip of them, you would agree that Holiday was an immediate upgrade over Vasquez. Is he CP3? No, but who else is? The pelicans dont need him to be either.

Evans - very slow start coming out of the gate. Not sure if it was conditioning or whatever, but he just seemed a step slower than everyone else. Was extremely glad to see him pick the pace up once he was inserted into the starting line-up. He makes Gordon expendable, but with another surgery headed into the offseason, it might be impossible to move him. BUT this is the NBA, SOMEONE will bite and trade for him. Would like to see Tyreke work on finishing at the rim better. When he is on and picking his spots, he is a very tough matchup. With that being said, he also needs to work on ball security. Too many times he lost the ball trying to do too much.

Rivers - Just needs to keep working hard. Work on his jumper and his off hand usage, and if he is going to be content with that floater, at least be efficient at it. But his improvement this year especially on the defensive end was a joy to watch.

Overall, injuries just killed the vision the front office had in mind this past offseason. Will be interesting to see what they do with Aminu, Withey, Pierre Jackson, Anthony Morrow, Babbitt and Ajinca. I lol'd when i saw it took them up until the second to last game to release Steimsma.

The jury is still out on Monty. I like that he tried different rotations down the stretch, but he seemed very stubborn at inopportune times to play the lineups that worked.
 

OU11

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wasnt meaningless unless your complimenting was a cover for trolling.

keep in mind, it was you that came in here with it. I didnt go to the NBA thread and post that stat. Not saying you cant come in here and be apart of the discussion, but lets not pretend thats what you want to do in the first place.

The only way it wasn't meaningless is if you consider the sixers a peer.
 

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aye brah, dont bring that "knocking strawmen down" shit in here :laughing:

You should know I aint the one to engage in those conversations, unless you want a headache
 

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where is the fun in that tho? :thumbsup:

And tbh, none of the other teams in the league interest me, or should i say, to the level that I would actually watch an entire game vs in spurts. For some reason this year, i had a hard time keeping up with the TNT broadcast games. I dont think the pels/hornets have played on TNT since the CP3/D.West era, so my primary watching is done on Fox Sports N.O.

I'm "invested" in the pels b/c I've followed them since the move to N.O. I "know" the history and I've seen the changes first hand.

As far as the philly thing goes, i just hate when people blindly talk about something they know nothing about, and to anyone who thinks that either team "lost" the deal, then they need to re-evaluate some things.
 

OU11

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What I'm saying is you don't need to compare the team you follow with a D League team.
 

OU11

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You guys have left that tier. Time to start comparing yourself to the 7th-12th teams in the West. Playoff push next year if you get a good corch, I'm actually really hoping for that because I want to see Davis in the playoffs.
 

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You guys have left that tier. Time to start comparing yourself to the 7th-12th teams in the West. Playoff push next year if you get a good corch, I'm actually really hoping for that because I want to see Davis in the playoffs.

the only reason i keep mentioning Philly is b/c i let g8r trap me into those conversations.

in a perfect world, i really thought they could challenge at least the bottom half of the WC this season. I was probably overly optimistic but I keep wondering what would've been had the injuries not decimated them when they did, but shit, even the teams battling it out for the 8th in the west have almost 50 wins. Shit thats a 3rd seed in the East. Out of the 5 teams in the Southwest Division, 2 have 50+ wins and another two are tied at 49. Thats brutal for the pels. They need for Dallas, Memphis, Houston and San Antonio to all fall the fudge off and fall hard.
 

OU11

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the only reason i keep mentioning Philly is b/c i let g8r trap me into those conversations.
Right but using blocks is dumb anyway since the guy he loves didn't even play. Might was well used the blocks of any team in the league under the Pelicans since Nerlins played for nobody.

in a perfect world, i really thought they could challenge at least the bottom half of the WC this season. I was probably overly optimistic but I keep wondering what would've been had the injuries not decimated them when they did, but shit, even the teams battling it out for the 8th in the west have almost 50 wins. Shit thats a 3rd seed in the East. Out of the 5 teams in the Southwest Division, 2 have 50+ wins and another two are tied at 49. Thats brutal for the pels. They need for Dallas, Memphis, Houston and San Antonio to all fall the fudge off and fall hard.

The west is just ridiculous. They feast on East teams and then kill each other in the West. Just hope that San Antonio gets old finally. Houston won't fall off unless someone leaves, Dallas will be there somehow, but Memphis and SA are the two that could open up spots next year.
 

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Right but using blocks is dumb anyway since the guy he loves didn't even play. Might was well used the blocks of any team in the league under the Pelicans since Nerlins played for nobody.



The west is just ridiculous. They feast on East teams and then kill each other in the West. Just hope that San Antonio gets old finally. Houston won't fall off unless someone leaves, Dallas will be there somehow, but Memphis and SA are the two that could open up spots next year.

Re: G8r's trap
and that the frustrating part about falling into one of his traps. lol. My "point" (if any) was that, most people kept talking about the block party that was going to happen in N.O. had NOLA kept the pick, yet without Nerlins, the pels lead the league in blocks, and if you are drafting Nerlins for the sole reason of blocking shots, then you are very short sighted. In other words, unless your initials are LBJ, you aint single handedly turning around a franchise solely buy yourself. I mean its all hypothetical, and I would be lying if I sat here and said I wasnt looking forward to see how Nerlins holds up at the pro level.

Re: West
agreed on all points
 

usnfish

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Rooting on the Spurs to win it all. Duncan and Popovich can retire.

Combine that with Memphis ideally letting Z-Bo walk and the Pels might not play in the toughest division in sports.
 

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thats wishful thinking. Pop aint going nowhere. Duncan would be ideal, but i still think a Kwahi Leonard lead Spurs team just gives the pels matchup problems.

but uhh...didnt realize Reke only had one turnover last night. dafug??
 

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As far as the philly thing goes, i just hate when people blindly talk about something they know nothing about, and to anyone who thinks that either team "lost" the deal, then they need to re-evaluate some things.

It's very rare that both teams win in a trade.

Philly definitely won so far - traded away Jrue and the wins he would've added, and got two lottery players.

Not to say NO couldn't ultimately win the deal, but I hardly think 25 games of Jrue is worth two lottery players right now.
 

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I think 25 games of jrue is more valuable than a season of Vasquez
 

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That's easy for you to say. How many seasons have ya'll had Westbrook?
 

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No, they traded for jrue to upgrade the pg position which has been my pov from the beginning. They gave up the pick because they didn't believe their answer to the pg spot was in the draft
 

NML

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That argument may make sense, but it doesn't make it good.

Jrue is probably the third best point guard on the team, but Monty thinks he has to have a "true PG" so he overpaid for an average one.
 

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I guess you put more value in unknown commodities. That's cool if you literally are throwing things at the wall to see what sticks, but again, new Orleans is a team that faces many of the same problems other small market teams face. You either have to be exceptionally lucky at drafting players or over pay for veterans.

I'm not all into the financial side of sports. I'll defer to @usnfish for that but it's either draft a unknown and hope he comes a around or overpay for someone you have a pretty decent sample size of data to support your decision.

Both sides have their strengths depending on what the end goal is, which according to OU is winning and I agree 100%.

And what team is jrue the third best pg? San Antonio?
 

usnfish

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It wasn't enough to troll New Orleans fans whenever they discussed New Orleans teams in league threads. Now the trolls will just run us off. GJGE

Did the Pelicans trade for Jrue under a one year contract? Oh, he's under contract for three more seasons you say? Interesting.
 

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Serious question @OU11. You're saying that Jrue is just a role player on any other team in the league except new Orleans and Philly?
 
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