After watching the Wofford/Georgia Tech game, I made two back option offense. Primary formations are split offset, I form Slot, and the Diamond. I added in 21 I form, spread offset, and normal offset to get motion. It's the closest I can come to a modern hybrid of the flex and spread like Wofford is doing. The bone formations are terrible.
Tl;dr A high school receiver who rode the bench is in love with the offense he played in.
Wofford runs some fun stuff. I had considered a multiple option book where I was in I Slot, a few Flexbone sets, Split Offset and a few Pistol sets and I may do it eventually, but I just need to be passing the ball with this group i have. Too many great receivers and a great passer.
If I really, really wanted to I could run an entire game of up-tempo 20 personnel. I Slot, Flexbone Slot/Trips Pistol Weak Slot, Gun Split Offset I could do some damage. 20 personnel is my favorite. Especially if one or both of those backs can catch the ball out of the backfield.
They based out of split offset and basically ran the 'ole split back veer like Marshall and so many other teams from the seventies. They used the flexbone a few times per drive, but it wasn't very successful. As late three years ago, they were exclusively a wishbone offense.
I know this isn't the option thread, but I feel it's relevant considering recent trends made popular by Chip Kelly and Gus Malzahn.
A split back veer could bring the balance I've desired from the spread while maintaining the old school option principles. I'm a sucker for the West Coast, and all of the formations have those concepts when you add in the I. Split backs under center also has the Packer Sweep.
I came across Texas' original Wishbone film with Darrell Royal spending 45 minutes explaining the offense. The wishbone and I are really the only two under center formations that can run the option, and both mesh well with the spread.
Right now, I'm basing out of split offset and mixing split offset wing for a wishbone look. Spread offset gives me something similar to the flexbone, and I have F Twins over and 5 WR Trio to run single wing concepts.
Is there any playbooks with a lot of straight Qb runs in them?
I was messing around in practice mode with vandy an my Qb broke a lot of tackles. Wish the veer worked better in this game. I might make a custom playbook idk it used to screw up user games sometimes.
Default playbook? Not really. You can find a few with some Blast/Power mixed in but definitely not any where you can run a complete QB run game. You'd have to go to a custom playbook if you wanted a legit QB run offense. I had a QB run variant of my Spread-I at one point but honestly it is tough to have an offense built entirely around the QB run game. QB runs are essentially limited to Wrap/Power/Blast and QB Power is limited to only a handful of formations. Unless you want to start dipping into Wildcat which adds a few options in there.
You can do it, it just takes some dedication and trial and error with custom books.
Seems like agressive blocking would be better, holding is rarely called and if it is, your offense should be able to overcome it most times anyway.
I would love to see somebody run the flexbone an it work in this game...ive messed with it an the only run plays I could get goin was the misdirection play and fb dive.
I been running flexbone for years and it is hands down the hardest offense to run but you HAVE TO learn the blocking. For example there are 5 kinds of triple option out of Flex Normal but each one actually has different blocking
Trple Option: The linemen block inside
Triple Option Str: The linemen block outside (Lg-C) double team backside and can create hole for B-Back
Triple Option Cntr Wk: The linemen block inside (fb has more momentum and moves faster through hole and also quit hitting taking opposite side pursuit out of play)
Triple Option Cntr Str: Linemen block outside( see above amd also creates a diagonal lane if given to B-Back on the dive
Midline Trple Option: ONLY USE IF THE USE 4 man front always run to side with DT on outside shoulder of Guard.... reason being the DT is the dive read after the fake you have to cut up quickly do not try to run a regular option outside because the blocking is not set up for that
The A-Backs also block different players on each play also but that's just the option plays from normal.... running the flex you basically have to read th defense pre and post snap just like a passing offense.... figure out what they are doing and attack steadily.... some games it's 80 rushing and 300+ passing then some it's 200+ rushing and 80 passing.... you have to take what they give you
Nice write up got anything on your passing game?I been running flexbone for years and it is hands down the hardest offense to run but you HAVE TO learn the blocking. For example there are 5 kinds of triple option out of Flex Normal but each one actually has different blocking
Trple Option: The linemen block inside
Triple Option Str: The linemen block outside (Lg-C) double team backside and can create hole for B-Back
Triple Option Cntr Wk: The linemen block inside (fb has more momentum and moves faster through hole and also quit hitting taking opposite side pursuit out of play)
Triple Option Cntr Str: Linemen block outside( see above amd also creates a diagonal lane if given to B-Back on the dive
Midline Trple Option: ONLY USE IF THE USE 4 man front always run to side with DT on outside shoulder of Guard.... reason being the DT is the dive read after the fake you have to cut up quickly do not try to run a regular option outside because the blocking is not set up for that
The A-Backs also block different players on each play also but that's just the option plays from normal.... running the flex you basically have to read th defense pre and post snap just like a passing offense.... figure out what they are doing and attack steadily.... some games it's 80 rushing and 300+ passing then some it's 200+ rushing and 80 passing.... you have to take what they give you
Awesome post. I have fully committed to running the flex and I agree it is a challenge. Are you on XBox or PS3?
Not sure if posting option here is appropriate but I too have switched from a spread to a flex type offense. The tips for trap have been extremely helpful as I follow the option thread on OS. I have had great success with Rocket Toss as well, but it only works with a tight end. Honestly, I try to make my offense as Wing Tish as possible which leads to a lot of jet and rocket sweeps and dive or trap for the fullback.
Nice write up got anything on your passing game?
I consider it a spread offense so im good with it lol.Passing I would have to make a whole post lol.... A quick tip is find a play that has basic concepts from different passing formations and reproduce them with WR hot routes.... I do have some plays I use alot but can't remember the name right now.... the most important thing is to cancel fakes with B-Back and have the O-line slide block to opposite side of where he blocks.... I can post some later and my bad for high jacking the Spread Thread lol....
Lol. The Mrs. Would not think to highly of that. I would love to get into a good online dynasty tho...trade for an xbox both of you
I have run bits and pieces of Flexbone but I just can't get into it enough to run it as a full on offense.
I am about to start dabbling in some pro-style though so there is a first time for everything I suppose.
My offense is more of a prostyle offense from bone formations. Honestly, I love to ground and pound so I probably only call options on 20% of my runs. I love me some power, but I like using multiple backs.
I have followed your posts since the OzBone days so it's safe to say I took some ideas from you. I like the option but not as much as I love the wing t. So most of my ideas are trying to replicate the wing t which is a chore in its self. I guess I try to run a high school offense in a college video game lol.Sounds like a lot of what I do with my Osborne offense. Mostly traditional runs with option sprinkled in. Even my Spread-I is like that, power interior runs with a little option mixed in. It's tough to be full on option in OD play. Inevitably you face aggressive option defense and you're giving on the dive over and over and that isn't much fun.
I have followed your posts since the OzBone days so it's safe to say I took some ideas from you. I like the option but not as much as I love the wing t. So most of my ideas are trying to replicate the wing t which is a chore in its self. I guess I try to run a high school offense in a college video game lol.