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USA National Soccer (M & W) Thread

NML

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“Coming of age” probably isn’t accurate - he’s 20

We’ve got the lost generation, which id consider 88 to 97. That group should be carrying our team (ages 22-31) but there’s so little there. People from decade that were/are difference makers are Jozy and maybe Steffen. One of those is possibly the most polarizing USMNT player of all time and a guy who’s only played in MLS so far.

It turns around in 98 with Pulisic and McKennie. But those peak years of that generation won’t happen until 2026 really, though there will be improvement for 2022.

It’s an unpopular notion, but a lot of this coincides with JK’s big overhaul of the youth system and coaching education. In 2012 when most of it took place, those first years of this (possibly golden) generation were 14.
 

NML

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Looks like Tyler Boyd will move to one of the big clubs in Turkey. Would love for him to play in European competitions, but Fenerbahce seems like a good move too.

It’s also worth mentioning that the great scouting network for USSF that discovered Boyd is... a freelance writer. Brian Sciaretta (who always has good stuff, btw) basically found out this random dude in Portugal had some American connection, talked with him enough to convince him to not cap tie himself to New Zealand, then he publishes a report (I think in December) with Boyd that he’d be open to the switch, and here we are.

It’s worth noting this isn’t the first guy this has happened with. Other BS guys were Wooten (who just signed with the Union), Johansson (RIP), and a handful of others on the fringes
 

doh

THANK YOU Dermott McHeshi
17 years ago -- I am still pissed. Best match the US has ever played... Oliver Kahn by himself denied a semifinal appearance. I'm still not convinced the ball didn't go over the line on the handball too.

 

NML

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Zardes with two nice goals but simultaneously could’ve scored six

It’s not a great result or anything but it’s nice to go in dry on one of these third world countries
 

doh

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It's the D-team... but I'll take it. Dest has a chance to play some Beker matches this year and perhaps make squads by the end of the year.
 

NML

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Doubtful Pierie ever plays for the US tho
Probably right...

... but, he is staring up at 2 of the best 10ish centerbacks in the world? Plus Ake, among others. The move to Ajax tells me he’s pretty highly thought of in Dutch circles, so my guess is the only reasonable scenario is that he hasn’t broken in by 2021 and the US gives him a chance to go to the World Cup.

It’s a bit different than situations like this in the past - even if he flipped tomorrow, he still is behind at least three or four guys and probably battling with like CCV for fringe call ups when someone is hurt.
 

NML

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Literally an entire new 11, which is fine I guess. Excited to see Jozy again. Miazga, Lewis, and Cannon are really the only other players I’m a fan of
 

NML

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This is really the first time for me - but watching Pulisic compared to the rest of the attackers, he’s just on a completely different level. I don’t necessarily want to say he’s the best US player of all time, but neither Dempsey nor Donovan ever did that for me (possibly because they almost always played together)
 

NML

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Here’s a hot take - but I’m glad we sit so compact defensively. Too often the US has abandoned good defense shape against these 80+ ranked teams and it seems to always bite them in the ass. If this Dutch second tier side can pass through us then so be it. Just trust that eventually you can break them down
 

kella

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Pulisic, boyd, mckennie playing with these bums is kind of depressing. Puli is especially just on a completly different level.
 

kella

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Here’s a hot take - but I’m glad we sit so compact defensively. Too often the US has abandoned good defense shape against these 80+ ranked teams and it seems to always bite them in the ass. If this Dutch second tier side can pass through us then so be it. Just trust that eventually you can break them down
Can't believe I'm saying this but I also like us doing this with Zimmerman on the ball. Long makes me really nervous.