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2015/16 NBA Season Thread
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DanishDonut0
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Also enjoyed the brow's MVP statline
Bucksin04
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Jesus fucking Christ are we really doing this all year?
He had 12 rebounds in 25 minutes which led both teams and is more combined than the Bulls starting front court had in 57 minutes total (Gasol 2 rebounds in 32 minutes, Mirotic 9 rebounds in 25 minutes). And he was doing it while not having played in a game since June and having gone through a handful of practices in the last week.
And with regards to "Is there really no other PF out there that could do that for a fraction of the price?" No. There isn't. Because the Cavs are over the salary cap they can only sign minimum salary players to fill that role. Minimum salary guys capable of pulling down 12 rebounds off the bench aren't just laying around.
Bucksin04
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Ha, didn't know it did that. I tweeted it out and just copy-pasted it in here. Didn't realize the hyperlink carried over. Editing now.
lol
dont be salty bucks (i detected your sarcasm btw) but TT hopefully will bounce back.
He missed all of preseason and probably wasnt working out. He should be in game shape in a couple weeks
Bucksin04
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Yeah that was my entire point. He wasn't in game shape whatsoever and still led both teams in rebounding, the thing he is mainly paid to do.
evil1
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Man, I missed basketball.
I think the Chicago-Cleveland game is more of a referendum on Chicago than Cleveland. I think it confirms that the Bulls are going to be fine without Thibodeau. The majority of starters playing less than 33 minutes? Whaaaaaaaat? It's still early, but I think Chicago is going to be a legitimate threat to Cleveland.
On the Cleveland side of the ball, Mo Williams looks like a sneaky good pickup.
As for N.O. and Golden State, Davis probably pressed a little too hard but the Warriors are NBA champs for a reason.
I think the Chicago-Cleveland game is more of a referendum on Chicago than Cleveland. I think it confirms that the Bulls are going to be fine without Thibodeau. The majority of starters playing less than 33 minutes? Whaaaaaaaat? It's still early, but I think Chicago is going to be a legitimate threat to Cleveland.
On the Cleveland side of the ball, Mo Williams looks like a sneaky good pickup.
As for N.O. and Golden State, Davis probably pressed a little too hard but the Warriors are NBA champs for a reason.
silverwheels
PLAY LA BAMBA BABY
Bucksin04
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The Cavs:
- Played the game without their starting backcourt of Kyrie and Shumpert
- Shot below 60% from the free throw line
- Had Tristan Thompson not in full basketball shape
...and Chicago only won by 2. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the Bulls. I think Cleveland, if/when healthy, smokes Chicago.
Mo Williams was fantastic though. Once Kyrie returns, Cavs have the option to bring him off the bench for some offense and relegate Delly to a 3rd PG/defensive stopper role which is perfect for him.
MSUFanatic
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LOL man that's pretty one sided.
I agree that Cavs are short-handed but DRose can't even fucking see he looked decent and it was Hoiberg's first game as an NBA corch. I'm sure they will improve a lot throughout the year as well.
Also, Jimmy Butler looks like a man on a mission + Mirotic could very well be the most important-lynch pin player for the Bulls by the end of the year. Just pump the brakes before you say they smoke the Bulls if healthy.
evil1
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First, as I said, this was more a referendum on the Bulls than on Cleveland. Even had they lost to a "healthy" Cavs team, I still generally liked how the Bulls played. In short, the pieces look like they fit in Hoiberg's system. Based on the preseason and training camp, I think this Chicago team is going to be just fine even without Thibodeau.
With regard to Cleveland, I'm not sure you can count on them getting completely healthy. Kyirie (broken knee cap) and Shumpart (broken wrist) are out until sometime in January. Once they do come back, they are going to have to get into playing shape and gel with the team while the season is still going on. Also, as a general rule, teams get more worn down and beat up as the season progresses, not healthier. So unless Cleveland is willing to give LeBron another two week break in the middle of the season, he is likely to be a little more worn down than usual by the later part of the season. I think it is awfully optimistic to think that the Cavs with the backcourt of Kyrie and Shumpart is going to be 100% at any point this year.
With regard to Cleveland, I'm not sure you can count on them getting completely healthy. Kyirie (broken knee cap) and Shumpart (broken wrist) are out until sometime in January. Once they do come back, they are going to have to get into playing shape and gel with the team while the season is still going on. Also, as a general rule, teams get more worn down and beat up as the season progresses, not healthier. So unless Cleveland is willing to give LeBron another two week break in the middle of the season, he is likely to be a little more worn down than usual by the later part of the season. I think it is awfully optimistic to think that the Cavs with the backcourt of Kyrie and Shumpart is going to be 100% at any point this year.
Bucksin04
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Kyrie is returning at the end of November/early December (not January). And the plan is indeed for LeBron to again take a 2 week break at some point during the season.
Not sure I buy the needing to gel argument. The entire team was re-invented on the fly last year with the Shumpert/JR/Mozgov trade and they still went on a tear down the stretch. They finished the year 32-3 over the last 35 games LeBron, Love, and Irving all played together. And then in the playoffs, the Bulls two wins came when the Cavs were playing their first game without Love and JR Smith suspended and the other win came on a banked three pointer at the buzzer.
I'm not saying CHI was bad at all last night. The offense is going to be more watchable under Hoiberg for sure. But they had a lot of things go their way last night and still only won by 2. Plus, if we're saying that we can't count on the Cavs to be healthy, we definitely need to say the same about Chicago. Rose and Noah both came up limping in Game 1 of the season last night. I'll still maintain that Miami is the biggest threat to the Cavs this year, not Chicago.
GuyIncognito
pressure cooker full of skittles
Miami doesn't have a coach, the Cowboys are trash. Never a better time for RUSS
NML
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Okafor looked good early on, but once Sullinger came on and adjusted, he was held in check. He pushed him back to getting the ball away from the block and struggled a bit. When he got the ball facing the basket or close, he was great. I didn't think his defense was as bad as advertised either.
Celtics' second unit looked great. I think that they are 10 deep will help them during the regular season. Could see around 45-48 wins.
great game from him
didnt expect that honestly, but again, this pels team is just decimated right now. Wins are going to be hard to come by.
I did like that AD was 3/5 from 3, but he still seems unsettled.
MSUFanatic
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RUbio looked like someone lit his hair on fire in the 1st qtr.
GuyIncognito
pressure cooker full of skittles
Enough RUSS to get you through the day.
http://grantland.com/features/russe...nference-kevin-durant-serge-ibaka-kevin-love/
http://grantland.com/features/russe...nference-kevin-durant-serge-ibaka-kevin-love/
Bucksin04
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Fell asleep during the game. WTF happened to Wiggins? 9 points, 1 rebound, 0 assists, and 2-10 shooting?
adchester
A-1 From Day 1
Just an off game imo. Didn't make any egregious mistakes, just was ineffective
good draft if you ask me
Bucksin04
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Gotcha. Last I looked it was late in the 1st half and he had only played like 11 minutes or something. Didn't know if he was hurt or what.
goblue96
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If you take away, Joe Smith at #1, yeah.
joe smith, from what i recall wasnt a slouch tho. yea...revisionist history tells us to not take him, but Garnett was straight outta high school so...im sure they were scared of that
goblue96
Disney and Curling Expert
Everybody was terrified to take Garnett early. He was first high schooler to be taken in the draft since Chocolate Thunder. Joe Smith was the 1995 College Player of the Year and the safe pick. He put up some decent seasons early for the Warriors who traded him to the Moose. His career went downhill from there.
sayo
YEET
McCollum is gonna surprise people. He's pretty skilled and is similar to Lillard in that he can get hot and create his own shot. The backcourt will be fun, but they aren't guarding anyone lol.