Tulane.
I remember some Utopian on an old board had a dynasty with Tulane and they were invited to the Big 12.
Jsu replaces Uab ticket prices rise from $2 to $10Now, the biggest shakeup is what happens with CUSA since UAB is gonna be kicked for not having a football program. Do they raid the Sun Belt again for look for an FCS program?
Sounds like the Big 12 is going to meet the fate of the Big Least. I for the life of me cant figure out the Big 12. They seem stuck on stupid over expanding and not having a CCG. Or is Tejas just that entrenched?
The ACC should pounce on Tejas and OU if possible. Expand to 9 conference games. Profit.
Did you expect him to go on Utah radio station and slam BYU and give you his honest opinion?
I don't know why they didn't take BYU, but he isn't going to give a Utah radio station anything but bs.
I think ultimately it is good that the PAC didn't get Texas, maybe not money wise but style wise they are just different. Would love to see BYU and Boise in the PAC even though it will never happen, it would be good for Utah to have their rival in conference. That and BYU is starting to fade in talent. They need to be in a legit conference to recruit better.
BYU as football-only would add a lot to the Big XII. I think it'd be a very good mutual pairing. Same for Boise State. I think they need to be proactive too. Just sitting around at ten isn't going to help anyone. BYU has I believe found out that scheduling is not as easy as they thought. Four good games to start then most of the rest of the schedule is awful.
I also think the ACC would allow Texas into the league and let them keep the LHN. I think it's a major reason they haven't done an ACC Network yet.
I mean, Id love to see USF in a decent conference again, but they aren't even in the conversation now, and with good reason. Nobody is going to take the shit-dick of a lower conference into a big conference. They hire other schools bag men as head coaches, and when they suck a fat one, nobody does anything because nobody gives a shit.
I thought the BIG XII-2 teams ceded their primary and secondary media rights to the conference, so teams can't just leave and take them to another conference. Didn't the ACC do it too?
But if they're both owned by ESPN, who cares? The big thing with Pac-12 is they wanted a network 100% owned by the Pac-12.The ACC is going to have the ACC Network up and running within two years; they're not going to let the Longhorn Network stick out there.
They aren't joining for football until 2017.Looks like Coastal Carolina will be joining the Sun Belt next year.
East:
Appalachian State
Coastal Carolina
Georgia Southern
Georgia State
South Alabama
Troy
West:
Arkansas State
Idaho
Louisiana-Lafayette
Louisiana-Monroe
New Mexico State
Texas State
This + people would much much rather go to Myrtle Beach over Lynchburg is a reason too. I do think Coastal has better potential too from the standpoint of more attractive area for recruits and not scaring off recruits with religious stuff. But in terms of support, money, facilities, etc. Liberty is definitely a better choice.Liberty has got to be pissed right now. They are so much more prepared to be in FBS than Coastal Carolina (and indeed much of the existing Sun Belt), but they can't get called up basically because of religious discrimination. They really need to sue the NCAA over the rule that requires a conference invite to move up.
This + people would much much rather go to Myrtle Beach over Lynchburg is a reason too. I do think Coastal has better potential too from the standpoint of more attractive area for recruits and not scaring off recruits with religious stuff. But in terms of support, money, facilities, etc. Liberty is definitely a better choice.
Idaho and New Mexico State will not have their agreement with the Sun Belt extended past 2017.
Thinking New Mexico State will try to stick it out but not sure about Idaho. It would make sense to go back to the Big Sky but FBS to FCS has not been done since the last reclassification in the early 80's. The last school to shut their program for good was Pacific in the mid-90's which followed Cal State-Fullerton and Long Beach State shutting down their programs.
I wonder about Massachusetts as well since the Sun Belt for football only looks off the table now.
I don't even know where to begin with the Big XII rumors.
I don't even know where to begin with the Big XII rumors.
I think long play wise the Pac-12 absolutely needs to add TX/OU (+ OSU/TTU?) if they want the Pac-12 Network to work as it is currently. I don't know if those schools "fit" the Pac-12's mentality and most of the member schools approach to athletics but the Pac-12 Net is a complete disaster. The main issue is that people on the west coast don't care enough about the teams here to give a shit to get the network. If an OU or UT game wasn't on (or even Oklahoma St/Texas Tech), I'm sure those carriers would get absolutely killed.I don't think anyone does. OU president David Boren has laid out his terms for the long term survival of the Big 12 with the goal of making everyone in the conference happy (expansion, title game, conference network), but at this point, a conference network with such a small population base and only 10 teams, not to mention the albatross that is the Longhorn Network, seems highly unlikely, especially with the ACC nowhere near a network in spite of a much larger base.
Expansion to 12 with 2 out of BYU, Boise State, Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston, Tulane, UCF, USF, and Connecticut is probably just as unlikely for a while. And the thought of some football-centric ACC teams defecting to the Big 12 is a pipe dream to say the least. That conference isn't going anywhere as long as Tobacco Road/Virginia want to keep it together. Big 12 is meeting in a couple of months to look at numbers but won't decide on anything then, with more discussions coming before fall practice begins. Sounds like the commissioner and university ADs/presidents want another year of data before attempting to think about expansion, although at some point they've got to grow some balls and make a decision one way or the other. Realistically there just aren't any available schools that will move the needle significantly for the Big 12 while keeping other problems to a minimum. A title game after a round robin schedule is about as dumb as it gets and I hope they don't go that route, even if it's just temporary.
A lot of rumors around about OU having an unofficial invite to the B1G once his terms aren't met, but I doubt they're true. Not sure OU is a good fit for that conference, anyway. With the Pac-12 Network not performing as hoped/expected, one would think that door is open again for a pod of CTZ teams that would have to include Texas and Oklahoma, at least down the road, but who knows. Then there's the SEC, who I'm sure would love to have OU in the fold for several reasons...
I'm surprised New Mexico hasn't ever been mentioned for Big XII expansion. Geographically works, similar-sized TV market to OKC, adds something in basketball at least.
If basketball made any difference (and if BC weren't run by a bunch of shitheads), UConn would've been in the ACC a long time ago.
I think long play wise the Pac-12 absolutely needs to add TX/OU (+ OSU/TTU?) if they want the Pac-12 Network to work as it is currently. I don't know if those schools "fit" the Pac-12's mentality and most of the member schools approach to athletics but the Pac-12 Net is a complete disaster. The main issue is that people on the west coast don't care enough about the teams here to give a shit to get the network. If an OU or UT game wasn't on (or even Oklahoma St/Texas Tech), I'm sure those carriers would get absolutely killed.
I also think the branding of Texas/Oklahoma is worth so much to the Pac-12 as well. The only "marquee" program the Pac-12 has is USC (with Oregon becoming that nationally and to a lesser extent Stanford). I think recruiting wise schools like Utah, Colorado, AZ schools would have a chance to do pretty well in Texas as well.
I'm just not sure the Pac-12 lightweights want to deal with the ego/wants/needs of Texas and Oklahoma. I'm not sure Texas/Oklahoma could deal with a conference where all the power and decisions are made from the west coast. But financially and football wise it makes a lot of sense for both parties.
If I was the Big XII, and I've posted this a few times, I'd add BYU and Boise State as football only. The Big XII basketball league is incredible and perfect at the time. I know that isn't THE focus but it is a minor factor. Both bring name recognition and take football extremely seriously. BYU travels and Boise does as well. I know they don't add MarKettZ but generally both teams rate well. If you had to do all sports, I think I'd go Cincy (even though they're not big time in their own city, basketball arena sucks, football facilities except stadium which was remolded but is tiny) and one of the Florida schools for "recruiting". I guess you could argue UConn because of hoops but football is a mess and Cincy is way closer to WVU than Storrs which helps travel wise.
Will people on the west coast care about Tejas\OU? Those schools are 1500-2000 miles away from some of the other Pac 12 schools.
Yeah, I think they should be in the ACC just for basketball alone, but football is the driving factor here and they've been decent a few times--getting killed by OU in the Fiesta Bowl 6 years ago is their peak--but not enough to make them an attractive option, even if they are in the populous NY market/area.
The ACC first targeted Syracuse, then UConn. But Boston College had major objections to UConn, stemming from BC's move from the Big East to the ACC in 2005, some nasty comments and a lawsuit.
BC athletics director Gene DeFilippo seemingly confirmed what many had been reporting/presuming over the past month -- that BC blocked UConn from receiving an invite to the ACC.
"We didn't want them in,'' DeFilippo told the Globe. "It was a matter of turf. We wanted to be the New England team.''