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2068 Season Thread

Yankee151

Hot Girl Summer
Looking forward to our series @Yankee151. Even though I finished 9 games back, our pythag is almost the same and we are finally healthy other than our long term injuries.

We don't have a closer, so that's my main concern. Gotta figure out how I want to handle the pitching staff as well.
First ever postseason meeting between the Murricans and Kings, it's gonna get 18th century real fast.
 
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TonyGin&Juice

Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Well who could have seen this backfiring ror me.

Don’t feel bad. I know I’m whiny ass bitch on the boards but I always felt his whole act was bullshit and everyone (understandably) doubted me. Now we can all see what he’s really like when he doesn’t get his way.

I do wish he (or someone that knows) would confirm how he made that team into a juggernaut.
 

NML

Well-Known Member
Orlando has shared what he told O’s

I’m skeptical of it because Travis basically did the same thing, and while he had success, this was another level.

I’d say it’s a combination of everything: data, leadership/morale, and simming ahead

But the OOTP gods don’t tolerate cheating, so that’s why he’ll never get a WS
 

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Pleighboi
Utopia Moderator
looks like flipp still went beast mode, i dont want to start him in the playoffs but i have to.
 

Wooly

Well-Known Member
Was also unavailable last night, though I was not up the mountain this time. One thing is for certain, I will never understand the league. I will never read you guys, or understand the unwritten rules.

There are several reasons I tanked the last week, and they made sense for my team.


1) Resting my starting pitchers so I could have them ready to start the playoffs in the order I want. It is even more important when my #2 Hayne is out of the year, and Lucatoni and Ramirez have both had long injuries this year (even though @TonyGin&Juice kept saying I had no injuries for some reason).

2) Resting all my starters so I took no chance at injuries.

@Orlando mentioned these already.


3) Avoiding an NDR matchup in the 1st round. I was not going to play my starters anyway, so I might as well see if I could lose and avoid NDR. Why not? Teams tank all the time. NDR had the best record against me in the SL this year...and several years in my 12 years here. My record against UK before the last week was 11-2 while I was 11-5 against NDR. Which team would you want to play? Why not try to avoid them? Why not try to get a different team into the playoffs? I didn't create how close it was at the end of the year, it was never my plan to tank, I just sized up the situation and took the best course for me team. Originally I was planning on just doing a 7DL to get my pitchers exactly where I wanted them. I do that the last two weeks of every year. In fact, I did that last week. However, this year there was talk of live sims, so I couldn't do 7DL.

Honestly, how different was my last-week-tank than 1) tanking all season to get a better draft pick, 2) not putting out your best players the last week to protect them and set up your playoff staff? Both are manipulating the rosters for your own advantage, including NOT trying win. Why is tanking during the season OK, purposely not trying to win to get a better situation for your team: a better draft pick? Why is it not ok to tank the last week of the season to get a better situation for your team: better playoff matchup?

You know what, I have had people ask me to lose the last week to help them get a playoff spot. Why is an unpardonable sin when I do it for myself? Other teams tank for years to get good players. That makes a huge impact on the league, it affects everyone. And something like 1/3 of the league is doing it at any given time. There is no outcry over that. I tanked one week which, affected two teams under .500 vying for a playoff spot one year...and there is such outcry? Would this outcry occur if it was not me, or I was not leaving league?


4) I can admit when I am wrong. I was convinced Orlando wanted NDR to get 4th place and then he would sabotage my team to make them lose to NDR in the 1st round. I saw a chance to avoid at least part of that. Apparently, that was not the case.

5) I think I should be able to run my team in the playoffs. I think you should take my export. I am still a manager, and I am trying to win a championship like everyone else (except the third of the league that is tanking all the time).
 

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Pleighboi
Utopia Moderator
Yeah, play your back ups but putting your worst single A players is just stupid. I'll never understand your not understanding
 

Wooly

Well-Known Member
Yeah, play your back ups but putting your worst single A players is just stupid. I'll never understand your not understanding
That's how you lose. Why would I just put in my backups? I don't want them getting hurt either, and I am trying to lose those games. What is the cutoff for tanking? What is acceptable? I have never tanked before. I will never get the nuanced group things, and the unwritten rules.
 

Karl Hungus

Here to fix the cable
That's how you lose. Why would I just put in my backups? I don't want them getting hurt either, and I am trying to lose those games. What is the cutoff for tanking? What is acceptable? I have never tanked before. I will never get the nuanced group things, and the unwritten rules.


Ah, there it is.
 

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Pleighboi
Utopia Moderator
That's how you lose. Why would I just put in my backups? I don't want them getting hurt either, and I am trying to lose those games. What is the cutoff for tanking? What is acceptable? I have never tanked before. I will never get the nuanced group things, and the unwritten rules.

Yeah it's hard to know where the line is between being a dick and not. I honestly wouldn't expect you to know where that is in any situation and you wouldn't understand what I typed even if I did explain this to you so I won't waste my time.
 

Wooly

Well-Known Member
Was also unavailable last night, though I was not up the mountain this time. One thing is for certain, I will never understand the league. I will never read you guys, or understand the unwritten rules.

There are several reasons I tanked the last week, and they made sense for my team.


1) Resting my starting pitchers so I could have them ready to start the playoffs in the order I want. It is even more important when my #2 Hayne is out of the year, and Lucatoni and Ramirez have both had long injuries this year (even though @TonyGin&Juice kept saying I had no injuries for some reason).

2) Resting all my starters so I took no chance at injuries.

@Orlando mentioned these already.


3) Avoiding an NDR matchup in the 1st round. I was not going to play my starters anyway, so I might as well see if I could lose and avoid NDR. Why not? Teams tank all the time. NDR had the best record against me in the SL this year...and several years in my 12 years here. My record against UK before the last week was 11-2 while I was 11-5 against NDR. Which team would you want to play? Why not try to avoid them? Why not try to get a different team into the playoffs? I didn't create how close it was at the end of the year, it was never my plan to tank, I just sized up the situation and took the best course for me team. Originally I was planning on just doing a 7DL to get my pitchers exactly where I wanted them. I do that the last two weeks of every year. In fact, I did that last week. However, this year there was talk of live sims, so I couldn't do 7DL.

Honestly, how different was my last-week-tank than 1) tanking all season to get a better draft pick, 2) not putting out your best players the last week to protect them and set up your playoff staff? Both are manipulating the rosters for your own advantage, including NOT trying win. Why is tanking during the season OK, purposely not trying to win to get a better situation for your team: a better draft pick? Why is it not ok to tank the last week of the season to get a better situation for your team: better playoff matchup?

You know what, I have had people ask me to lose the last week to help them get a playoff spot. Why is an unpardonable sin when I do it for myself? Other teams tank for years to get good players. That makes a huge impact on the league, it affects everyone. And something like 1/3 of the league is doing it at any given time. There is no outcry over that. I tanked one week which, affected two teams under .500 vying for a playoff spot one year...and there is such outcry? Would this outcry occur if it was not me, or I was not leaving league?


4) I can admit when I am wrong. I was convinced Orlando wanted NDR to get 4th place and then he would sabotage my team to make them lose to NDR in the 1st round. I saw a chance to avoid at least part of that. Apparently, that was not the case.

5) I think I should be able to run my team in the playoffs. I think you should take my export. I am still a manager, and I am trying to win a championship like everyone else (except the third of the league that is tanking all the time).
@Travis7401 are you offended by this? Do you care that I tried to avoid you in the playoffs by helping UK get the last spot?
 

TonyGin&Juice

Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
Yeah it's hard to know where the line is between being a dick and not. I honestly wouldn't expect you to know where that is in any situation and you wouldn't understand what I typed even if I did explain this to you so I won't waste my time.

This. So much this.
 

TonyGin&Juice

Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
That's how you lose. Why would I just put in my backups? I don't want them getting hurt either, and I am trying to lose those games. What is the cutoff for tanking? What is acceptable? I have never tanked before. I will never get the nuanced group things, and the unwritten rules.

Nothing is going to please me more than seeing you get ur ass pounded with the A bums you called up. That you don’t get why that is a dick move is beyond me. You really are completely without an ounce of self-awareness.

Good luck in ur next league.
 

NML

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Youre a real dumb cocksucker. I mean...we're contracting your fucking team dipshit. Get the fuck out of here you fuck

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TonyGin&Juice

Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
:laughing: #4. Holy fuck. I don’t know your records vs other teams nor do I have any idea what the SL playoff situation looks like 90% of the time.

If you take his export I’m going to let JAR take over the Manatees. What would be fair is to let JAR or my cat take over FAX.
 

Orlando

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Utopia Moderator
Yeah, play your back ups but putting your worst single A players is just stupid. I'll never understand your not understanding
That’s the thing. He goes to the extreme on everything and he doesn’t just do one dickish thing, he does them all. I’ve lined up my team before like that, but I don’t pull up a bunch of garbage 19 year olds to do it. If this was the only thing he has ever done, people probably wouldn’t even care. But it’s not.
 

Wooly

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:laughing: #4. Holy fuck. I don’t know your records vs other teams nor do I have any idea what the SL playoff situation looks like 90% of the time.
I said I was wrong.

But yes, given some exchanges here and in PMs, with you and others, I thought you might make me lose to NDR. Especially because the only team with any success against me was NDR, so it seemed more plausible. People were talking about quitting rather than see me win it this year.
 

Wooly

Well-Known Member
That’s the thing. He goes to the extreme on everything and he doesn’t just do one dickish thing, he does them all. I’ve lined up my team before like that, but I don’t pull up a bunch of garbage 19 year olds to do it. If this was the only thing he has ever done, people probably wouldn’t even care. But it’s not.

It's because he has to do whatever he wants to do in the most efficient way possible. There is no calculation for other people

Well, why is it OK to tank whole seasons, for multiple seasons? Doesn't that effect the whole league for years? Where is the calculation for others there? Why is my one time, one week tank. such a big deal when compared to that? Even if it's with really bad players, it's pretty minor compared to what happens every year here with tanking, by lots of teams. As quoted above, people probably wouldn't care if they considered this in a vacuum without the context of who the manager is. Are people being objective about my one week tank? I don't think so. So I don't get to play in the playoffs, but other teams get to tank their way to 1st round picks? I want to run my team in the playoffs.


I never said anything to imply I would do that, here or in PMs. Never.
Call me paranoid, but I have been suspicious of this for a long time. With the events and tone this year, it felt like the fix was in. I posted this to you before.
 

TonyGin&Juice

Sucking off Lawn Guy Land hobos.
I said I was wrong.

But yes, given some exchanges here and in PMs, with you and others, I thought you might make me lose to NDR. Especially because the only team with any success against me was NDR, so it seemed more plausible. People were talking about quitting rather than see me win it this year.

Did you miss the memo where ur BANT?
 

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Pleighboi
Utopia Moderator
Well, why is it OK to tank whole seasons, for multiple seasons? Doesn't that effect the whole league for years? Where is the calculation for others there? Why is my one time, one week tank. such a big deal when compared to that? Even if it's with really bad players, it's pretty minor compared to what happens every year here with tanking, by lots of teams. As quoted above, people probably wouldn't care if they considered this in a vacuum without the context of who the manager is. Are people being objective about my one week tank? I don't think so. So I don't get to play in the playoffs, but other teams get to tank their way to 1st round picks? I want to run my team in the playoffs.



Call me paranoid, but I have been suspicious of this for a long time. With the events and tone this year, it felt like the fix was in. I posted this to you before.

what team tanks with 19 year old guys rated 45/35/25 starting?
 
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